Cross Genre Match #13: Wonder Woman vs Bleach

Started by Etna37 pages

well...if CIS is on, this is a big mess imo.

I don't think Ichigo is hurting WW , thats for sure. So there is no point in trying to see he is strong enough or not. This is a completely useless character to defend here with CIS on.

Some of these characters don't like to attack at once, or fight with others.

ALL these character don't bust out their strongest moves/strongest forms once the fight starts. So before they realize that they should use their strongest move/strongest form, WW probably knocked them out cold.

Bleach characters are so repetitive in the series, that they always do that silly stuff. Most of them are cocky as hell.
And then when they DO decide to use their strongest form/or strongest move, they start giving us a huge speech about how they don't rarely use this form/move because their mommys told them not to, or because they like to seem weak, etc.

With CIS on I'm gonna say the same for WW, of it being a mess. I don't think she is the type to smash their heads and kill these characters. She also doesn't seem the type to destroy the planet.

Originally posted by Q99
Except she's shown herself capable of very high combat speeds on multiple occasions.

Hey, Flash gets hit by stuff way slower than him all the time too, does that mean he can't do it?

It is PIS, one of the most common types. Everyone fights close to their opponent's speed most of the time for some reason.

I would love to explain the difference to you.

When fighting Flash, he is actually moving at super speed the entire battle and you can tell. The person isnt going fist to fist with Flash either... he is blitzing them, gaining more hits and they land a surprise attack.

Example, Flash fight with Konvikt. Flash was blitzing Konvikt the entire time and Konvikt couldnt touch him and had to stomp the ground in order to get flash off of him. Wonder Woman fought this same Konvikt and they were going fist to fist.

Flash vs Mongul... Flash was blitzing Mongul the entire time, Mongul couldnt even touch him whereas when Wondy fought Mongul (well, you know the rest).

Its different, Wonder Woman goes fist cuff with everyone that she fights, they gain as many licks on her as she does. Fighting Flash, you basically have to time your attacks when hitting him.

Originally posted by jltruth
I've only seen WW flight speed, running speed, and deflecting speed. I've yet to see anything that shows her fighting using super speed and I don't mean speed blitzing, because that's basically flying or running in a straight line.
This.

Again, I'm not even claiming she can't do it, but just saying she can isn't good enough; if you WW supoorters claim it, you must have seen her do it, so just post a scan and this whole thing can be done with.

Originally posted by Etna

I don't think Ichigo is hurting WW , thats for sure.
Why not? As i understand it, one of the few things WW is susceptible to being hurt by, is bladed weapons... that's what Ichigo does best. Don't even try to claim he isn't strong enough to cut her.

Originally posted by marwash22
is that supposed to bother me? 😕

anyhow, how 'bout showing those scans instead of insulting people? So, "uh-huh" is your answer? Just show me.


It should bother you considering Carver is tied with H1a8 and Quanchi as one of the Trinity of Shitty and stubborn debaters who fear logic like a vampire fears the sun.

The scans were shown by Gavalclaw and ignored. If blocking multiple projectiles with your bracers isn't combat speed and fighting a speedster isn't combat speed then I have no idea what dictionary you pull the terms "combat" and "speed" from, because it certainly isn't an English dictionary.

Besides don't get on a high horse about not insulting people, you're hardly without sin there.

They're looking for prolonged combat at high speed.

Seems pretty clear to me.

And justified.

Originally posted by Etna
well...if CIS is on, this is a big mess imo.

I don't think Ichigo is hurting WW , thats for sure. So there is no point in trying to see he is strong enough or not. This is a completely useless character to defend here with CIS on.

Some of these characters don't like to attack at once, or fight with others.

ALL these character don't bust out their strongest moves/strongest forms once the fight starts. So before they realize that they should use their strongest move/strongest form, WW probably knocked them out cold.

Bleach characters are so repetitive in the series, that they always do that silly stuff. Most of them are cocky as hell.
And then when they DO decide to use their strongest form/or strongest move, they start giving us a huge speech about how they don't rarely use this form/move because their mommys told them not to, or because they like to seem weak, etc.

With CIS on I'm gonna say the same for WW, of it being a mess. I don't think she is the type to smash their heads and kill these characters. She also doesn't seem the type to destroy the planet.

Going by feats, who is stronger, Cheetah or Ichigo?

Going by feats, who is stronger, Big Barda or Ichigo?

Originally posted by carver9
Going by feats, who is stronger, Cheetah or Ichigo?

Going by feats, who is stronger, Big Barda or Ichigo?

Cheetah and Barda have better strength feats... So there's that.

The thing that really makes me lol, is that I don't recall bleach characters ever fighting continuously at too fast for the eye to see except with Shunpo/Sonido.

Not to me, Illa. Stamina appears to be a mainstay for just about every character in comics. I doubt most of WW's high end speed feats even 'cause her to lose her breath.

Originally posted by King Kandy
The thing that really makes me lol, is that I don't recall bleach characters ever fighting continuously at too fast for the eye to see except with Shunpo/Sonido.

Gin?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It should bother you considering Carver is tied with H1a8 and Quanchi as one of the Trinity of Shitty and stubborn debaters who fear logic like a vampire fears the sun.

The scans were shown by Gavalclaw and ignored. If blocking multiple projectiles with your bracers isn't combat speed and fighting a speedster isn't combat speed then I have no idea what dictionary you pull the terms "combat" and "speed" from, because it certainly isn't an English dictionary.

Besides don't get on a high horse about not insulting people, you're hardly without sin there.

I dont see anything wrong with Quan (besides his Thanos love) and you REALLY need to stop bashing people, you are not one of the good debators on the forum Omega.

I cant believe you truly dont know what we are asking for. We all know that Wonder Woman can fly fast, that isnt our argument.

Now if you bash anyone else in this thread I'm reporting you.

Originally posted by amnesia
Gin?

Well, his sword can extend at that speed but I don't remember he himself ever doing it.

Originally posted by amnesia
Cheetah and Barda have better strength feats... So there's that.

Are you ready to prove this? I'll be back with a strength feat from ichigo.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well, his sword can extend at that speed but I don't remember he himself ever doing it.

Well he did come a Toshiro awfully fast. And Ichigo too.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Hmm...

You know, given the abilities the Bleach characters have, particularly the duplication, shadow attacks, voodoo dolls, time slow, and darkness generation, I think they have the tools to take Diana down when used in concert.

👆

And for the Wonder Woman side, she does have more going for her than just her strength and superior flight speed. She has her lasso, which has ridiculous properties. IIRC, I'm pretty sure it has "grabbed" intangible and shapeless things. If poison or whatever is simply in a gas cloud, and she is not immediately in the vicinity of it, she could simply tie it up.

Having said that, a bunch of ridiculous abilities like duplication (is this an exact duplicate of yourself? As in, same physical attributes of the person being cloned?), time slowing, etc etc will, IMO, eventually take her down.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Not to me, Illa. Stamina appears to be a mainstay for just about every character in comics. I doubt most of WW's high end speed feats even 'cause her to lose her breath.

We are still waiting on those combat speed feats. Show us Wonder Woman fighting at continuous speeds; show us her basically fighting at blinding speed, without being seen by the necked eye because from all the fight scenes I have seen of her, mere humans see EVERYTHING that is going on.

Marwash22, I'm not claiming she can fight using super speed. I'm asking for the same thing you're asking for. i'm asking for proof that she can.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Not to me, Illa. Stamina appears to be a mainstay for just about every character in comics. I doubt most of WW's high end speed feats even 'cause her to lose her breath.

It's the scrutiny paradox. Whenever a non-comic characters abilities are questioned, a scan/video of the specific action being questioned must be provided or the claim is thrown out. For comic characters (except Apocalypse, for some reason) logical inference is more readily accepted even without direct evidence being presented. That's what Carver and Marwash are getting at, and I see where they're coming from because I'm old, wise, and bias free...

...save for hating Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
Are you ready to prove this? I'll be back with a strength feat from ichigo.

Oh come on man, Ive read bleach twice. I know what I'm talking about.

Originally posted by King Kandy
The thing that really makes me lol, is that I don't recall bleach characters ever fighting continuously at too fast for the eye to see except with Shunpo/Sonido.
you're missing the point. Bleach characters primary weapon (other than their swords) is shunpo/sonido; they counter and attack with ridiculous speed. The only way you can claim WW can keep up with them in a fight is if you can prove that she can fight at superspeed... something that still hasn't been done and I'm getting the feeling it will never happen.
Originally posted by jltruth
Dude I'm not claiming she can fight using super speed. I'm asking for the same thing you're asking for. i'm asking for proof that she can.
i know, i was co-signing your post.