Who was Rocky's toughest opponent?

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Of coruse it's not... The fact that Drago was on steroids just increases his toughness.

The thread isn't "Which of Rocky's opponents is the toughest while fighting fairly".

Never said it was...you asked me for me for a valid reason and I gave one, he trained fairly....I have given a valid reason. I'm not saying that you should change your decision so why should I change mine? To me, Creed was the toughest because he trained without the use of drugs, excuse me for going for a guy who decided NOT to use roids. glare

Originally posted by steverules_2
Never said it was...you asked me for me for a valid reason and I gave one, he trained fairly....I have given a valid reason. I'm not saying that you should change your decision so why should I change mine? To me, Creed was the toughest because he trained without the use of drugs, excuse me for going for a guy who decided NOT to use roids. glare

I admit that Drago was tough, but I still think Creed was Rocky's toughest opponent, he beat Creed by 1 second...he beat Drago by 10. In both cases however if Rocky hadn't KOed either, then they both woulda won. But I think Creed was more dominant of Rocky than Drago was...I mean sure the first round Drago was very dominant of Rocky but as the fight went on it was even.

Originally posted by steverules_2
I admit that Drago was tough, but I still think Creed was Rocky's toughest opponent, he beat Creed by 1 second...he beat Drago by 10. In both cases however if Rocky hadn't KOed either, then they both woulda won. But I think Creed was more dominant of Rocky than Drago was...I mean sure the first round Drago was very dominant of Rocky but as the fight went on it was even.

I think the stake level was different, though. He wanted to prove that he could fight Creed. Drago killed his best friend. The amount of work put into those fights were different.

I agree, I think I mentioned this before but I will again, Duke himself said that the training Rocky would be putting himself through would be hell...or something a long those lines, he trained himself much harder for his fight against Drago. But for me it's still Creed, I agree that Drago's a tough cookie but I still think he went through a tougher fight with Creed.

Originally posted by steverules_2
I agree, I think I mentioned this before but I will again, Duke himself said that the training Rocky would be putting himself through would be hell...or something a long those lines, he trained himself much harder for his fight against Drago. But for me it's still Creed, I agree that Drago's a tough cookie but I still think he went through a tougher fight with Creed.

😬 Yes,but the point I'm trying to make is Rocky was just an up and comer when he fought Creed,I even got talking about this thread at work today and everyone says Drago was rocky's toughest opponent

Ivan Drago. No contest.

Originally posted by K.Diddy
😬 Yes,but the point I'm trying to make is Rocky was just an up and comer when he fought Creed,I even got talking about this thread at work today and everyone says Drago was rocky's toughest opponent

Creed was tough yes...but to me not the toughest, I still go with Creed

Originally posted by steverules_2
Creed was tough yes...but to me not the toughest

🙂 Agreed

🙂 Drago was

Well I did enjoy Rocky IV quite a lot

Originally posted by steverules_2
Well I did enjoy Rocky IV quite a lot

🤨 Did you not notice the mistake in your post?

😬 Anyway,So I guess your saying Creed could beat Drago as well then?

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Apollo, easily. At peak physical performance it took, Rocky two attempts to beat Creed and he almost didn't even win the second time around. Mr T beat, Rocky but after during the rematch when Rocky was focused and physically fit he embarrassed him. As for, Drago...,to me, he seemed to have more trouble with, Apollo, considering that he actually lost.

🙄 The first time Apollo fought Rocky,Rocky was just an up and comer,So for him to pretty much reach a draw with Apollo in the first film when Rocky was nowhere even near his peak proves that Apollo really was not even that good,Drago would beat Apollo at his peak easily

Originally posted by K.Diddy
🤨 Did you not notice the mistake in your post?

😬 Anyway,So I guess your saying Creed could beat Drago as well then?

The fact that I liked Rocky IV is not a mistake, saying it's better than the past Rocky movies would be a mistake 🙂 Hey I'm allowed my own opinion.

I think if Apollo had done the training that Rocky did then maybe, but I think Rocky is more durable than Rocky, he didn't take his training seriously and that was his biggest mistake and ultimately lead to his death. He also made the mistake of underestimating Drago.

Originally posted by steverules_2
The fact that I liked Rocky IV is not a mistake, saying it's better than the past Rocky movies would be a mistake 🙂 Hey I'm allowed my own opinion.

I think if Apollo had done the training that Rocky did then maybe, but I think Rocky is more durable than Rocky, he didn't take his training seriously and that was his biggest mistake and ultimately lead to his death. He also made the mistake of underestimating Drago.

🙂 This mistake-Creed was tough yes...but to me not the toughest, I still go with Creed

And again 🙂 but I think Rocky is more durable than Rocky,

🙄 Doesn't make sense

😬 Anyway,I dont see how Apollo could beat Drago whether he did Rocky's training or not,I mean look how easily Drago killed him,So Apollo would have no chance beating him.Drago is the toughest opponent easily

Drago was a steroid enhanced killing machine.

Rocky just has super human durability so he cancelled him out.

Kinda like when Homer became a boxer.

Between Mr T and Drago, Drago wins.

Drago.

Originally posted by K.Diddy
🙂 This mistake-Creed was tough yes...but to me not the toughest, I still go with Creed

And again 🙂 but I think Rocky is more durable than Rocky,

🙄 Doesn't make sense

😬 Anyway,I dont see how Apollo could beat Drago whether he did Rocky's training or not,I mean look how easily Drago killed him,So Apollo would have no chance beating him.Drago is the toughest opponent easily

Yeah I wasn't 100% awake but here we go

1: Drago was tough yes...but to me not the toughest, I still go with Creed
2: But I think Rocky is more durable than Creed

Because Creed didn't train properly, if Rocky had done the training that Creed had done first time around he would have lost as well. I'm gonna use Rocky III as an example, in Rocky III first time around we saw that Rocky wasn't really trying during training and he ended up losing...he trains again for his second fight with Clubber who he lost to...he trained much harder than he had done first time around and thus he picked up the win. If Creed had trained much better then he may have won.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Yeah I wasn't 100% awake but here we go

1: Drago was tough yes...but to me not the toughest, I still go with Creed
2: But I think Rocky is more durable than Creed

Because Creed didn't train properly, if Rocky had done the training that Creed had done first time around he would have lost as well. I'm gonna use Rocky III as an example, in Rocky III first time around we saw that Rocky wasn't really trying during training and he ended up losing...he trains again for his second fight with Clubber who he lost to...he trained much harder than he had done first time around and thus he picked up the win. If Creed had trained much better then he may have won.

😬 Sorry,still dont agree,but ok,case closed

You don't have to agree I was just stating my point 😬 But yeah, I don't wanna dwell on this

Originally posted by steverules_2
You don't have to agree I was just stating my point 😬 But yeah, I don't wanna dwell on this

😬 I just think your point is wrong,Drago KILLED Apollo easily,So I dont think Creed training up means he would beat Drago,Maybe not get KILLED by him,but thats about it