Who was Rocky's toughest opponent?

Originally posted by K.Diddy
😬 The problem is Steve that we are not talking about who is the toughest opponent without steroids here

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Indeed, the fact that he used steroids is irrelevant... and stating that he used them only adds to reasons as to why he is the toughest.

😬 I don't think people have read my post clearly and have mis-understood...I never said in my post that we are talking about who is tougher with or without roids...I just said I'd like to have known what is PSI woulda been without roids. Suddenly thats me saying 'Drago is less tough cause of his roids!'

Originally posted by steverules_2
😬 I don't think people have read my post clearly and have mis-understood...I never said in my post that we are talking about who is tougher with or without roids...I just said I'd like to have known what is PSI woulda been without roids. Suddenly thats me saying 'Drago is less tough cause of his roids!'

😬 I'm pretty sure that you have said in this thread that the reason you are picking Creed over Drago partly is because Drago was using roids and Creed wasn't

But I never said such a thing in the post you quoted nor did I hint towards it, I just said I wondered what his PSI would be without roids...and somehow from that you got 'Creed is tougher because he did it all without roids.' And you know what, for me that does make him tougher....he did the training and everything and didn't need roids to try and win against Rocky. Drago needed roids to try and win and yes it made him tough but for me it kinda took away from him being tough because he needed roids to take Rocky to the limits...Creed didn't need roids to take Rocky to limits and he lost by 1 second...drago lost by 10. And I know, I know Creed died in a match with Drago but again he didn't train properly, if he had I'm sure he would have had a much better match and most likely been able to dodge a few of Drago's shots...and who knows what the outcome might've been. You're basing Drago's win against a man who didn't train properly for his boxing match...he underestimated Drago. I'm just giving my opinion, I haven't stated why you shouldn't pick Drago I've stated why I'M not picking him and for some reason you and Spoony have a problem with that. 😬

It's just the fact that you keep mention the fact that he used steroids... as if we're supposed to be appalled. He wouldn't be Ivan Drago without the drugs.

Well I keep mentioning it because you all seem to keep mentioning why I shouldn't be picking Creed...all because I said I went for Creed because he decided to fight without drugs....shame on me 🙄

Originally posted by steverules_2
Well I keep mentioning it because you all seem to keep mentioning why I shouldn't be picking Creed...all because I said I went for Creed because he decided to fight without drugs....shame on me 🙄

😬 The fact that Drago used drugs should not be taken into account

Thats fine if you two and others think that, but I chose Creed because I really think he was Rocky's toughest...I'm not telling you to choose Creed so why do you have a problem with me picking him. I've stated my reasons and one of them was to do with the fact that Drago took drugs and suddenly thats such a bad thing that I went for someone who trained without the use of drugs.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Thats fine if you two and others think that, but I chose Creed because I really think he was Rocky's toughest...I'm not telling you to choose Creed so why do you have a problem with me picking him. I've stated my reasons and one of them was to do with the fact that Drago took drugs and suddenly thats such a bad thing that I went for someone who trained without the use of drugs.

smoke I'm just simply stating that we are debating Which opponent of rocky's was the toughest, Not which opponent of rocky's was the toughest without drugs

🙂 So the fact that Drago did steroids is simply irrelevant

But to me using steroids means your weak so you have to use steroids to be tough, Creed was naturally tough where as Drago was tough due to a drug

Apollo from Rocky I.

Originally posted by JacopeX
Apollo from Rocky I.

🙄 Thats just ridiculous

Originally posted by K.Diddy
🙄 Thats just ridiculous

Lang!!!

Originally posted by JacopeX
Rocky was an amateur facing a World Class fighter. Kudos to any amateur to be able to last all rounds with Apollo though. And he did give it his all as he said in Rocky II.

He didn't train properly for that fight either, he trained really hard in Rocky 2 thus he was able to do better. He gave it his all in Rocky yes BUT he hadn't trained properly for that fight at all.

Lang KO'd Rocky in 2 rounds. /thread.

Originally posted by JacopeX
Rocky was an amateur facing a World Class fighter.

😐 Exactly and Apollo couldn't even KO him,So how the hell was Apollo rocky's toughest opponent?

Originally posted by K.Diddy
😐 Exactly and Apollo couldn't even KO him,So how the hell was Apollo rocky's toughest opponent?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lang KO'd Rocky in 2 rounds. /thread.

Dude you saw how Rocky trained for that fight 🙄 If you could even call that training, second time around he actually tried after his wife gave him a motivational speech

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lang.

😐 No

Originally posted by steverules_2
But to me using steroids means your weak so you have to use steroids to be tough, Creed was naturally tough where as Drago was tough due to a drug

😬 Doesn't matter