Originally posted by janus77
Hulk stomps.
Thor's best hope is to bury mjolnir somewhere off planet, so that Hulk doesn't end up using it to beat him to death.Thor doesn't stand a chance, at present levels. if Hulk was back to Savage Hulk levels, then this might be a fight.
traditionally, Savage Hulk = Thor + Mjolnir. that's always been Thor's lifesaver in their encounters (until Savage Hulk decided to use it against Thor).
smh. Hulk could NEVER lift mjolnir, NEVER.
(Unless you think hulk is skyfather level, which he isn't. He is low street at best)
Originally posted by Stoic
Actually Thor was KO'd by the Dark Avengers in Siege, and it wasn't even the whole team.
no.
they were not the dark avengers. It was norman, moonstone and the u-foes. and it was after Thor was hit by Sentry.
it should be noted that Vector (of the u-foes) alone was able to reduce Hulk to a skeleton before while thor had no severe wounds.
Originally posted by Warlord
no.they were not the dark avengers. It was norman, moonstone and the u-foes. and it was after Thor was hit by Sentry.
it should be noted that Vector (of the u-foes) alone was able to reduce Hulk to a skeleton before while thor had no severe wounds.
Vector wasn't blasting the hell out of Thor in that conflict was he? Norman in an inferior suit to the one Stark used in WWHulk put Thor down with a punch, after Sentry had a wrestling match with him. There wasn't a big exchange between the two as I recall.
How long did it take for the Hulk to regrow his flesh from Vector's assault? How long did it take Thor to recover from the beating that 7 or less guys gave him?
Re: World breaker hulk vs thor
Originally posted by parashute
well since skaar was able to beat him up and red hulk gave him a hell of a beating i can say that WBH is nothing at all so its his vs thor who wins
in Incredible Hulk #611,WBH appears only at the start of the fight,the majority of the fight is more the Green Scar personna,the real WBH can't contol his power and have gamma waves pouring around him,it's not the case in the majority of Incredible Hulk #611,in Hulk#24 the Hulk who beat Red Hulk is banner in control of Green scar............
Originally posted by Stoic
Vector wasn't blasting the hell out of Thor in that conflict was he? Norman in an inferior suit to the one Stark used in WWHulk put Thor down with a punch, after Sentry had a wrestling match with him. There wasn't a big exchange between the two as I recall.
norman ordered them to go all out so it is safe to assume Vectror was blasting Thor to death. how you figure he wasn't i cannot tell. finally after sentry's hit followed by all this energy projection you still think it was norman's punch that took him out ???
Originally posted by Warlord
norman ordered them to go all out so it is safe to assume Vectror was blasting Thor to death. how you figure he wasn't i cannot tell. finally after sentry's hit followed by all this energy projection you still think it was norman's punch that took him out ???
My point was to show the Hulks staying power vs Thor's, in a comic they stalemate a lot, but in a forum, Thor would be taking lumps while the Hulk would stay nearly fresh due to the HF. This is why it took so long for Thor to get back into the fight.
Originally posted by Stoic
My point was to show the Hulks staying power vs Thor's, in a comic they stalemate a lot, but in a forum, Thor would be taking lumps while the Hulk would stay nearly fresh due to the HF. This is why it took so long for Thor to get back into the fight.
Hulk has a HF advantage while Thor has the durability advantage (Vector is a proof for that). And Hulk's strength would constantly increase... but as u mentioned in a forum fight Thor can just fly out of reach and BFR him
Originally posted by Warlord
Hulk has a HF advantage while Thor has the durability advantage (Vector is a proof for that). And Hulk's strength would constantly increase... but as u mentioned in a forum fight Thor can just fly out of reach and BFR him
If you followed the WWHulk series you would know that you are only half right. The Hulks hide (body armor) gets more durable the stronger that he becomes, World Breaker Hulk would likely walk right through Thor currently, and bust him the way 8th day Juggernaut almost did. Vector's showing against the Hulk back then (weaker Hulk by miles) was the Hulk showing that he could take anything that Vector threw at him, and still KO him. If Thor tried the same stunt he would have switched to deflection mode by using Mjolnir. The Hulk did not have to walk into Vectors barrage, he could have just as easily ripped a chunk of flooring up and barreled toward him for the KO.
bfr is a possibility, but not really Thor's style.
Originally posted by Stoic
If you followed the WWHulk series you would know that you are only half right. The Hulks hide (body armor) gets more durable the stronger that he becomes, World Breaker Hulk would likely walk right through Thor currently, and bust him the way 8th day Juggernaut almost did. Vector's showing against the Hulk back then (weaker Hulk by miles) was the Hulk showing that he could take anything that Vector threw at him, and still KO him. If Thor tried the same stunt he would have switched to deflection mode by using Mjolnir. The Hulk did not have to walk into Vectors barrage, he could have just as easily ripped a chunk of flooring up and barreled toward him for the KO.bfr is a possibility, but not really Thor's style.
I agree about the World Breaker being a more powerful version but I was talking about normal Hulk. He was almost a skeleton when he KOed Vector while Thor had no visible fatal wounds. The HF is the key to his victory. anyway as said before it is a forum fight. thor can just stay out of reach and bfr him
Originally posted by Warlord
I agree about the World Breaker being a more powerful version but I was talking about normal Hulk. He was almost a skeleton when he KOed Vector while Thor had no visible fatal wounds. The HF is the key to his victory. anyway as said before it is a forum fight. thor can just stay out of reach and bfr him
It's a comic, could you imagine the BS Marvel would have to swallow if they allowed Thor to be shredded by a clown like Vector? In a forum if Thor had no hammer and walked headlong into Vectors barrage, he would have been ripped up too.
Originally posted by Stoic
It's a comic, could you imagine the BS Marvel would have to swallow if they allowed Thor to be shredded by a clown like Vector? In a forum if Thor had no hammer and walked headlong into Vectors barrage, he would have been ripped up too.
really?
they did it with Hulk. why not Thor? no wounds at all?
u say he'd been ripped although the comic itself say otherwise.
Originally posted by Warlord
really?
they did it with Hulk. why not Thor? no wounds at all?
u say he'd been ripped although the comic itself say otherwise.
ok how about this, why don't you make a thread, and ask everyone concerned, this question. How long would it take for Vector to blast the meat off of Thor (Vector going all out) while Thor sat there and took it. Do you think Thor is immune to Vectors blasts?
Ok, I just checked it out (Siege #1), they all took aim, and blasted thor with what looked like a nuclear strike, Norman walks over and pops Thor in the head, and lights out. Vector wasn't really pouring it on. At the same time though WW Hulk took a bigger blast than that from Black Bolt and was fine, do you see the correlation?
no i don't see the correlation... you are saying they weren't going all out because the art wasn't impressive to u. but while they were specifically ordered to go all out and they didn't have reasons not to, I say this is only your opinion and it is not even supported by evidence.
as for the BB scream, it was just a skrull. i'm not impressed
Originally posted by Warlord
no i don't see the correlation... you are saying they weren't going all out because the art wasn't impressive to u. but while they were specifically ordered to go all out and they didn't have reasons not to, I say this is only your opinion and it is not even supported by evidence.as for the BB scream, it was just a skrull. i'm not impressed
I won't interpret that which was not there. They all took aim and fired one volley, this made a huge blast, Norman then walked over to a dazed Thor and put his lights out. This is what happened nothing more, nothing less. The Hulk on the other hand, in less than WB mode took more damage from Black Bolt (Skrull) and was just fine.
Originally posted by Stoic
I won't interpret that which was not there. They all took aim and fired one volley, this made a huge blast, Norman then walked over to a dazed Thor and put his lights out. This is what happened nothing more, nothing less. The Hulk on the other hand, in less than WB mode took more damage from Black Bolt (Skrull) and was just fine.
more damage based on your assumption.
however the evidence is right there for classic hulk at least.
Vector all out vs Hulk = Hulk de-fleshed
Vector all out PLUS others vs Thor = Thor was still standing.
wanna blame the art? blame the art.
Plus collateral damage doesn't mean more power explicitly.
This fight is a moot point... Neither of them have a really measurable strength limit and Thor's magic does a bunch but Hulk has a really high HF to counter. Also the Hulk just keeps getting stronger the longer the fight goes on and then Thor changes his game to more of a range fight pissing Hulk off more. It goes down to Thor just tiring the Hulk out via constant magical assault and running/flight.
Originally posted by Warlord
no.they were not the dark avengers. It was norman, moonstone and the u-foes. and it was after Thor was hit by Sentry.
it should be noted that Vector (of the u-foes) alone was able to reduce Hulk to a skeleton before while thor had no severe wounds.
after he was hit by sentry? so a single hit from sentry is that huge of a factor for thor? if 1 hit from sentry can reduce his entire durability then your point onlyu makes it worse for thor
right after thor was hit by sentry he sent him flying and was just fine it was never stated or show that he was hurt from that single punch , what did hurt thor was the U FOES combined blast from 3 people
also lets not forget that all those so called "MIGHTY" U FOES that kicked his ass were taken down by captain america and nick fury so there goes your thor thing
Originally posted by parashute
after he was hit by sentry? so a single hit from sentry is that huge of a factor for thor? if 1 hit from sentry can reduce his entire durability then your point onlyu makes it worse for thorright after thor was hit by sentry he sent him flying and was just fine it was never stated or show that he was hurt from that single punch , what did hurt thor was the U FOES combined blast from 3 people
also lets not forget that all those so called "MIGHTY" U FOES that kicked his ass were taken down by captain america and nick fury so there goes your thor thing
so being beaten by Cap means they have no energy out put to take down someone like thor?
or peal Hulk as they already have?