Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs. Living Tribunal AND Eternity

Started by Omega Vision12 pages

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I haven't seen anything like this here 😖hifty:

You wouldn't notice. He destroyed it in an instant and recreated it in an instant. 😛

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It wasn't just a Multiverse. Mxy destroyed at least 2 Multiverses (PC and Post Crisis) as well as the 'Real World'
Don't forget that he also destroyed the 4th World. And according to Orion, all mortal universes (the multiverse) exist inside bubbles in the one reality of New Genesis.

...And he destroyed the 5th dimension as well (which is likely even bigger still.)

Originally posted by Galan007
Don't forget that he also destroyed the 4th World. And according to Orion, all mortal universes (the multiverse) exist inside bubbles in the one reality of New Genesis.

...And he destroyed the 5th dimension as well (which is likely even bigger still.)


Do you think he destroyed the higher dimensions (6+)?

How many dimensions are there?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
How many dimensions are there?

Taking the Ultimator's statement as true fact, 10.

Though the Ultimator might have just known about 10.

WF effectively makes Mxy above any being in DC, and real world writers/editors. I don't see why we should take it seriously.

Originally posted by Mindset
WF effectively makes Mxy above any being in DC, and real world writers/editors. I don't see why we should take it seriously.

Well Emperor Joker hinted as such as well.

I don't put WF Mxy above the Presence though. Or even on the same level.

Obviously Bat Mite could fight him, so he wasn't truly Omnipotent.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well Emperor Joker hinted as such as well.

I don't put WF Mxy above the Presence though. Or even on the same level.

Obviously Bat Mite could fight him, so he wasn't truly Omnipotent.

And yet he destroyed the people who control the "omnipotents" actions.

Originally posted by Mindset
And yet he destroyed the people who control the "omnipotents" actions.

Just because they control reality doesn't mean their durability isn't shit

Using the approach that Mxy destroyed the real world including the writers we must also accept that it was the writers who allowed Mxy to destroy them.

In effect they destroyed themselves. 😛

If anything it should have been Mxy, Batmite, and Bruce left, as Bruce has peak human durability.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Do you think he destroyed the higher dimensions (6+)?
This:

Leads me to believe absolutely everything in DC was destroyed.

Originally posted by Galan007
This:

Leads me to believe absolutely everything in DC was destroyed.


So then do you think the instance where Mxy got embarrassed by the A is PIS/CIS?

Please don't take this as casuistry, I'm genuinely confused by this.

^ I never looked at that as PIS. The A wasn't introduced until after WF was released -- I think he was just that powerful.

Beyonder was said to be millions of times more powerful than everything in the marvel multiverse combined. That means eternity + galactus + phoenix + living tribunal + oblivion + mistress death + *everything else* multiplied by 1,000,000(s). So, he wasn't omnipotent, but still leagues above Mxy, Thought Machine, and whoever else that's not omnipotent in comics.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Beyonder was said to be millions of times more powerful than everything in the marvel multiverse combined. That means eternity + galactus + phoenix + living tribunal + oblivion + mistress death + *everything else* multiplied by 1,000,000(s). So, he wasn't omnipotent, but still leagues above Mxy, Thought Machine, and whoever else that's not omnipotent in comics.

Feats>Statements.

His energy created a universe that was that much bigger than the MU. There, now its a feat.

Originally posted by King Kandy
His energy created a universe that was that much bigger than the MU.
that feat doesnt put him anywhere near mxy

Originally posted by King Kandy
His energy created a universe that was that much bigger than the MU. There, now its a feat.

Which certainly isn't worthy of the "millions of times greater than all the Abstracts combined" hype.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Feats>Statements.

Authors that wrote the story > you.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Which certainly isn't worthy of the "millions of times greater than all the Abstracts combined" hype.

Um, the feats are exactly equivalent. His energy was millions of times greater than the MU, including the abstracts that represent it. So, he was himself that much stronger.