Superman vs Earth

Originally posted by biensalsa
The line between PC and modern are really blury now

There are scans stating that Modern Superman is the same Superman of earth 1

Originally posted by -Pr-
If he really wants to, i don't see why not.

its basically the same as the tootie rolls comerical.

anyways he one shots it

Superman punched open Darkseid's singularity that was cracking time and space across the multiverse. lol.

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's because modern Superman's roots ARE from Earth 1. He was the same Superman immediately following COIE as well, but he was still going through a character revamp at the time. What's more, the scans you posted mentioning the Pre Crisis adventure look like they happen right around/after COIE? Do you happen to know when they're from in relation to that event?

They happened before COEI in this Superman timeline

Also remember that timelines were adjusted after final crisis and the Byrne revamp does not count anymore.

Byrne said there was no Superboy, now DC says there was a superboy, so byrne revamp "disapeared" on final crisis

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman punched open Darkseid's singularity that was cracking time and space across the multiverse. lol.

That too 😄

Originally posted by biensalsa
They happened before COEI in this Superman timeline

Also remember that timelines were adjusted after final crisis and the Byrne revamp does not count anymore.

Byrne said there was no Superboy, now DC says there was a superboy, so byrne revamp "disapeared" on final crisis

But Matrix Supergirl also came from Byrne, so not all of his run was retconned.

And while he technically was Superboy, wasn't it more like the television show Smallville's Superboy? E.g., he had the powers, but wasn't actually wearing a costume?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I really don't see how location would matter given the kind of force we're talking here.

A little sand isn't going to matter, it simply isn't enough to absorb that much kinetic energy.

You may want to think about it again. It's not just "a little sand". It would diffuse the force of the first few punches as he'd be punching tons of free flowing grains of sand rather than the actual planets crust. It would act as a shock absorber to his initial blows. Unless you also think Superman can punch the surface of the ocean and cause the ocean floor to crack without actually making contact with it directly.

Hulk would it in one punch though

does all five punches have to be in the same spot?

I don't recall the actual issue biensalsa is talking about, but if superman actually damaged/shattered the diamond planet in the story and it was referenced post crisis, then it should stand...

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't recall the actual issue biensalsa is talking about, but if superman actually damaged/shattered the diamond planet in the story and it was referenced post crisis, then it should stand...

Originally posted by 753
He just says his blow could have split a diamond planet in two, it actually doesn't even affect the thing he's chopping at and there is no diamond planet in the story. It's just hyperbole.

There's a difference between it being hyperbole and it being allowed to stand, though.

Anything said during the fight isn't usable anyways...

hence my point...

Originally posted by 753
hence my point...

I disagree that it's hyperbole, though.

Originally posted by 753
He just says his blow could have split a diamond planet in two, it actually doesn't even affect the thing he's chopping at and there is no diamond planet in the story. It's just hyperbole.

Are you saying that in a PC comic, YOU DOUBT PC SUPERMAN CAN SPLIT A DIAMON PLANET IN 2 WITH A SINGLE BLOW? angel_not

Originally posted by biensalsa
Are you saying that in a PC comic, YOU DOUBT PC SUPERMAN CAN SPLIT A DIAMON PLANET IN 2 WITH A SINGLE BLOW? angel_not

Originally posted by cdtm
But Matrix Supergirl also came from Byrne, so not all of his run was retconned.

And while he technically was Superboy, wasn't it more like the television show Smallville's Superboy? E.g., he had the powers, but wasn't actually wearing a costume?

That is why I say the line between PC SUPERMAN and MODERN SUPERMAN IS REALLY BLURY.

Superman is semi retcon, because all of his adventures with the JLA are retcon, but his adventures on his own tittle only a few have been retcon.

and About Supergirl. PLEASE DO NOT GO THERE, BECAUSE IS A BIG MESS 😱

Here is some info on Matrix Supergirl:

"Post-Infinite Crisis, the Matrix Supergirl has been seen in a scene showing the events from Zero Hour in 52 in the History of the DC Universe back-ups by Dan Jurgens. According to an interview with Newsarama, following the events of Infinite Crisis, Dan Didio stated that the Matrix Supergirl was wiped from existence However, Geoff Johns later stated, "As for this...huh? Linda Danvers hasn't been retconned out at all." The question of the cannonicity and fate of both Matrix and Linda Danvers was a subject of debate for several years until in 2008 when Linda Danvers was used in the Reign in Hell mini-series. However, the future of Matrix remains uncertain. Her origin may be in flux due to the events of Infinite Crisis and the multiversal instability hinted at in Booster Gold, but her existence has been confirmed at least."

Originally posted by 753
Pre crisis SM could do it, but the statement itself is still hyperbole and if it is pre crisis than it's unusable for current SM. Also, declarations aren't feats.

This coming from the guy who showed me a statement saying that Silver surfer cannot be harmed with fire, electricity and something else? Which by the way WAS OLDER than my scan. (actually I don't remember if it was you)

And why is unusuable if it is a retcon event?, just because you say so?

I see mod aprovingt the feat, so I'll go wit him

Originally posted by biensalsa
This coming from the guy who showed me a statement saying that Silver surfer cannot be harmed with fire, electricity and something else? Which by the way WAS OLDER than my scan.

And My scan has been retcon.

GOT IT 😉

Your scan has been retconned into what? Current SM is nowhere close to pre-crisis levels and transfering hyperbole of the latter to the former is beyond pathetic.

By the way, you should read thanos imperative four so you can shut up about SS's board being as durable as he is.