Yet another case demonstrating the need for the death penalty.

Started by kgkg6 pages

Originally posted by Liberator
These people obviously need serious mental help if their enjoyment is this sort of torture in others. Simply killing them solves nothing and does nothing for any future cases.
Sure it does.

Originally posted by kgkg
Sure it does.

Care to elaborate as to what it exactly achieves for the future cases?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Care to elaborate as to what it exactly achieves for the future cases?
I was talking about "Simply killing them solves nothing" part.

Originally posted by kgkg
I was talking about "Simply killing them solves nothing" part.

Alright, care to elaborate on that? As in, why, how...etc.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Alright, care to elaborate on that? As in, why, how...etc.

A dead man can't torture anyone is what he's likely saying.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
A dead man can't torture anyone is what he's likely saying.
Exar Kun did.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Exar Kun did.

I don't do it often...But I did LOL at that reply.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Exar Kun did.

lol

Pwned.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Alright, care to elaborate on that? As in, why, how...etc.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
A dead man can't torture anyone is what he's likely saying.

Originally posted by jaden101
I don't do it often...But I did LOL at that reply.
One of my fave EU characters.

With a name like Zeal ex etc, you'd think he's be against the death penalty in case people got it wrong....Like HITLER did!

Originally posted by Bigwanger
With a name like Zeal ex etc, you'd think he's be against the death penalty in case people got it wrong....Like HITLER did!

What? 😕

Originally posted by Bigwanger
With a name like Zeal ex etc, you'd think he's be against the death penalty in case people got it wrong....Like HITLER did!

That's deep.

Thing is they do technically torture criminals to death already. I think there are cases when criminals have faced lethal injection but its been drawn out over a long time. What they will tell you is something went wrong....

[QUOTE=12980208]Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Of course not, but if a mistake is made you can let a person out a prison. [/QUOTE[/B]

In some cases you have a person who videotapes themself in high definition raping and killing women. The fingerprints match the dna matches and the person has a history of violent sexual misconduct.

I believe cases like these (and only cases like these)where there is NO mistake should be treated specially and the most brutal tortures imaginable should be the reward for being 100% guilty in a senseless murder of another person.

If criminals are petrified of the punishment it can deter crime better than if punishment is simply room and board with free meals and even a few luxuries.

Inmates can do anything that free people can do if they can get away with it including move/escape. What's scary about that to a cold blooded killer?

Originally posted by The MISTER
[QUOTE=12980208]Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
[B]Of course not, but if a mistake is made you can let a person out a prison.
[/QUOTE[/B]

In some cases you have a person who videotapes themself in high definition raping and killing women. The fingerprints match the dna matches and the person has a history of violent sexual misconduct.

I believe cases like these (and only cases like these)where there is NO mistake should be treated specially and the most brutal tortures imaginable should be the reward for being 100% guilty in a senseless murder of another person.

If criminals are petrified of the punishment it can deter crime better than if punishment is simply room and board with free meals and even a few luxuries.

Inmates can do anything that free people can do if they can get away with it including move/escape. What's scary about that to a cold blooded killer? [/B]

I doubt it will have the deterring effect you imagine. Criminals like you described - serial killers and such - act out of compulsions not rational calculations. Besides, criminals in general believe they won't get caught and they are right about it most of the time. An increase in police investigation efficiency would have a much broader impact than scare tactics and harsher punishment. Even incarceration penalties could be lighter than they are now in most countries and they would be enough to thwart crime in general if they were applied to all criminals.

Originally posted by The MISTER
In some cases you have a person who videotapes themself in high definition raping and killing women. The fingerprints match the dna matches and the person has a history of violent sexual misconduct.

I believe cases like these (and only cases like these)where there is NO mistake should be treated specially and the most brutal tortures imaginable should be the reward for being 100% guilty in a senseless murder of another person.

I agree that such people deserve to be executed. However, I'm inclined to question who has the right to carry out the sentence.

Originally posted by The MISTER
If criminals are petrified of the punishment it can deter crime better than if punishment is simply room and board with free meals and even a few luxuries.

It is known, empirically, that the death penalty does not measurably reduce crime.

But if we're going to just speculate I would point out that a person who knows he's going to get the death penalty no longer has anything to lose and might well become more violent as time goes on. But of course there's not much evidence for that, either.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Inmates can do anything that free people can do if they can get away with it including move/escape. What's scary about that to a cold blooded killer?

Do you seriously think inmates in the real world have the ability to just walk straight out of prison when they feel like it?

I'm actually really sympathetic for where some of you people must have lived if you think 1 hours of sunshine, a TV and 8 hours of lockdown is equivalent to "free room and board"

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Do you seriously think inmates in the real world have the ability to just walk straight out of prison when they feel like it?

Not when they feel like it, it's when they eventually figure out a way how. Most prisoners will never escape just like some humans will never be astronauts...but I'd wager that more murderers escape from prison per year than the total number of new people that enter space.

I'm not saying that it's common, just that it happens, and if we locked proven murderers in a room and did'nt open the door until they had died the cause would be that they were dangerous and thus quarantined like the viruses they were.

Not every living thing should be allowed to live. There's a reason that diseases and pestilence should be fought and killed. When people become dangerous and do things that get them locked in a room and permantly cut off from all human contact until they die of thirst then they executed themselves if they are sane and they were exerminated like zombies if they're insane. Nobody murdered them, they murdered somebody and dealt with the consequences of that action.

^ Viruses aren't generally considered alive by scientists today. Murderers are. Leaving someone to die isn't really different from executing and carries the same moral weight.