Originally posted by Shakyamunisoni would but, i dont believe in suicide...
Ok King Castle, please volunteer first. 😄
war is good though...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3317461/Apes-of-war...-is-it-in-our-genes.html
also necessary to protect the species and insure only the fit survive.
also i respect nature always have i tend to think i am less wastefull then your average american..
Originally posted by King Castle
where better to start or take a large chunk then from the one place that makes up the majority of the worlds population... not saying we single them out but lvl the playing field for every race/culture and nation.. reduce everyone down to manageable numbers asia would just be the most obvious place where we would notice the difference
currently: more food goes to waste rotting in store houses and thrown out in fast food resturaunts than would be necessary to feed the world. We don't need GMOs, we don't need to cull the population, we just need some organization with the oversight, mandate, and power to deliver it to those who are in need.
and that food should go to the 1st immediate place like south and central america... instead of being stored.. i know that food rots away in silos when it could feed the hungry and it pisses me off...
its done for nothing more then political and economic leverage when it could help those who really need it in our own country and next door..
ppl are fast to scream socialism/communism if we even think about doing the right thing.. i think corporate greed and capitalism has done worse to the world then the boogy man of socialism/communism.. i think we need a lil of all three. not one extreme nor the other to help this world and the future children..
give free aid(communism) when its possible not for political/economic gain b/c its the right thing to do and its going to waste anyways...
let ppl pay a certain set tax for certain opportunities like education or health care.(socialism). i mean wher the f#$$ does my taxes go? a $ 300 dollar toilet seat and lamp shades bought in bulk of millions? a billion dollar grant for the study of odor and its effects on humans?
paying a merc and his company 100 millions when my countries soldiers not only have the weapons/training and they do it for a quarter less?
let ppl open up their own companies if they can succeed and compete good for them..(capitalism w/ethics)
our overall goal should be to help each other not just human but the planet and all its life if possible..
Originally posted by inimalistMaybe not at the moment but in a few years it definately will.
the world isn't overpopulated, we just use resources in a remarkable unequal and wasteful manner.
EDIT: China is already decreasing it's population and if people like it or not the whole world will sooner or later reach the same point of birth control it will be a necessary evil.
Overpopulation isn't happening anytime soon, at least from a 'can't fit' point of view.
As inimilist said, it's the way the world uses resources, in a perfect world the resources we use today could feed, shelter, cloth and power billions more.
But if people insist on the 'cull the population as a means', I vote that we start with the Chinese and Indians (dot; not feather).
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Maybe not at the moment but in a few years it definately will.EDIT: China is already decreasing it's population and if people like it or not the whole world will sooner or later reach the same point of birth control it will be a necessary evil.
ok, but what is the problem in India and China...
is it that there are just too many people there, or is it that there is not enough infrastructure to support that many people
the best example of this is from the Green Revolution in India or the Great Leap Forward in China. In both situations, domestic food production created a surpluss in terms of what the nation needed to feed their people, but because of corporate greed in India and state planning in China, there were millions starving in their communities at the same time.
it is proposterous to say we are overpopulated. its just ****ing lazy
Originally posted by inimalistOk first off I want to know, at which point would you say that this planet is overpopulated?
ok, but what is the problem in India and China...is it that there are just too many people there, or is it that there is not enough infrastructure to support that many people
the best example of this is from the Green Revolution in India or the Great Leap Forward in China. In both situations, domestic food production created a surpluss in terms of what the nation needed to feed their people, but because of corporate greed in India and state planning in China, there were millions starving in their communities at the same time.
it is proposterous to say we are overpopulated. its just ****ing lazy
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Ok first off I want to know at which point would you call that this planet is overpopulated?
I probably wouldnt
overpopulation is a "framing problem". Something can only have too many people relative to how much infrastructure there is to support them.
So, if I have 7 people in one house, but only enough resources to feed and support 5, then that house is overpopulated. However, if I have an inner city with over 50 000 people per square KM, and the resources for 60 000, there is no overpopulation.
so, for something to ever be overpopulated, you would need to show that their population density not only is greater than the current infrastructure of the location they inhabit, but greater than that location could EVER support.
overpopulation is a relic of social-darwinist world views, plain and simple. it locates the problem in the people of a location, rather than in the resources, which are so much more relevant than population density. hell, so long as it is framed as overpopulation, the only solutions are a cull or forced relocation.
infra structures would require material which would be found in mountains which we would mine and create toxic run off and the woods would be cut in order to harvest raw material taking homes from the smallest creatures to the largest one like elephants, Big Cats...
i prefer a sudden death outbreak for humans.