Originally posted by Parmaniac
You said they produce 40% more than needed,
no, I didn't. I said we waste 40% of our food. There is a different statistic, that talks about the tonnage of food produced in the praries, that says there is enough food grown in North America to feed the planet.
Anybody who jumps from that to "we need to start shipping our extra food around the world with little American flags stuck to them" is not actually reading what I am saying.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
40% will be fast surpassed by this rate of birth increases plus they must ship it to afrika from canada/america, by increasing people on the globe the oil demand also increases, oil is not infinite as soon as it runs out how are you getting the ships to afrika? Now you could argue that bio fuels will drive them but you need fields for these aswell. We live on a planet with physical limitations and limited resources it's just not possible to keep up like that for let's say the next 40-50 years (<- No prove, my own estimation).Seriously this shit can't go on like this for long.
all of that is only relevant if we ignore how quickly agricultural science is progressing.
Ok, so yes, maybe the system we have now wont be applicable in 50 years, that is moot in the extreme.
BTW, I've never said anything about shipping it to them. That is a stat that attempts to show that people, like you, who claim there "just isnt going to be enough food" are painfully mistaken, because we grow more than enough domestically, let alone on the world stage. I'd prefer we help them develop their own local agriculture without export/import conditions imposed by the world bank or IMF.
like, you seem really keen to have an argument with someone whose points are only tangentally related to mine.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
We already getting these scenarios in mexico where farmers start growing bio fuels cause it's making more money and people living there start starving cause of the lack of fuel. It's not just a question of how much we have at this point and how much is needed at this point.http://www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?StoryId=5518
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so? and the world drug market causes starvation in Nepal, where people grow pot instead of food...
this dones't change the simple fact that it is not scarcity that causes hunger. Or rather, it is either local or artificial scarcity that causes hunger. That Mexican farmers are growing cash crops does pose a problem for their local food sources, it doesn't mean that we, as the planet, have no other options in terms of feeding them...