Eternity Vs Celestials

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Then I think that's a case of crappy writing/Celestial wanking.

How much did Guy222 pay that writer? uhuh

😛

Edit: It's like if there was a comic where a guy like Mordru comments that Klarion the Witch Boy is orders of magnitude more powerful and suddenly everyone places Klarion in the Elder God tier. ermm

By feats? Celestials handily.

Originally posted by kgkg
It was hardly crap writing at that time anyway there hasn't been many forces able to defeat the Celestials.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah but apart from being above the likes of Odin did they really have any impressive showings? Any Universal showings?

Well, there is Scathan 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Bentley
Well, there is Scathan 😖hifty:

Future>>>Present. 😛

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah but apart from being above the likes of Odin did they really have any impressive showings? Any Universal showings?

But ya feat wise stomping multiple Skyfathers like they are nothing was at least Galactus level.

I think that tanking a blast from an alternate Infinity Guantlet is more than alternate Eternities have done.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Then I think that's a case of crappy writing/Celestial wanking.

How much did Guy222 pay that writer? uhuh

😛

Edit: It's like if there was a comic where a guy like Mordru comments that Klarion the Witch Boy is orders of magnitude more powerful and suddenly everyone places Klarion in the Elder God tier. ermm

C'mon.

Originally posted by kgkg
It was hardly crap writing at that time anyway there hasn't been many forces able to defeat the Celestials.

Originally posted by Galan007
Reed had a gun in his damn closet that was capable of fragging them. none

But Celestial have lost steam in recent times though.

Originally posted by kgkg
Reed is well Reed. He once had a device to channel the power of the entire Negative Zone.

But Celestial have lost steam in recent times though.

...But their showings in F4 have been pretty much the opposite of that.

Originally posted by kgkg
The only one I can remember is containing the Goblin Force.

But ya feat wise stomping multiple Skyfathers like they are nothing was at least Galactus level.

Yup, but it "devastated" their entire race! They also managed, in a What If like another poster mentioned, to destroy the IG and drain almost all of the (Pre Retcon?) Beyonder's power. Sure they were wiped out, but that's still damn impressive!

And, then there's Scathan 😛

Eternity vs "Celestials" is spite against the Jobber King.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
This contest just shows off the incredible inconsistency and PIS writing in Marvel comics...

Eternity [b]logically should be able to crush all the Celestials at once as Eternity represents the sum total of the universe and everything in it...so Eternity should possess all their power+that of every single being in the universe.

But Eternity is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the greatest jobber in Marvel; Eternity jobs more than the Elders of the Universe...jobs 1,000,000 times more than the Champion does.

Eternity only being able to destroy a single planet while enraged!??? BULLSH*T...10000% bullsh*t.

Anyway, if logic is a factor (and in Marvel comics it rarely is), then this is spite against the Celestials...

But if PIS and CIS are in full effect (as you know they are in Marvel) then the Celestials effortlessly bring Eternity to his knees and make him beg for mercy... [/B]

This is 100% correct, there's really nothing else to say

Originally posted by Galan007
I agree completely. What's funny is several people acted like I was an idiot for saying the same basic thing in a Celestial-related thread a while back, but the bottom line is: Kubik = a confirmed universal reality warper. The dude was able to gesturely transform Beyonder's universe into a small sphere that he could crush in his hand -- yet one unsupported comment pertaining to a no name/newborn Celestial being infinitely more powerful than he is supposed to supersede the fact that no Celestial (not counting the unquantifiable fellas like Scathan or evolved Tiamut) has feats approaching that level?

C'mon.

Reed had a gun in his damn closet that was capable of fragging them. none

Reed beat a single Celestial after they were blasted by a freaking Infinity Guantlet. Actually, by tanking an Infinity Guantlet those random Celestials already bypassed most of Eternity's feats.

I'm not completely sure, but isn't the Eternity that has appeared in comics only been the true Eternity's Avatar? He mentioned as much in the Infinity Watch, when he said that Warlock would never be able to punk him in his true form. Also, how can Eternity be merely universal when his very name contradicts this belief, I mean he is Eternity, which means that he is omnipresent... Right?

Eternity's true form is the 616 universe.

Originally posted by Bentley
Eternity's true form is the 616 universe.

Does that really make sense to you? Eternity means unending, which should mean that he encompasses not only the 616 Universe, but all other parallel universes, and their sub counter parts, this would also include the Negative Zone. Anyways Marvel should stop painting themselves into corners.

Originally posted by Bentley
Reed beat a single Celestial after they were blasted by a freaking Infinity Guantlet. Actually, by tanking an Infinity Guantlet those random Celestials already bypassed most of Eternity's feats.

Originally posted by Galan007
There is no proof whatsoever that those alternate IG's are equal to the 616 gems.

Damn Galan you in Ninja mode? You just popped out of no where, set the record straight, and poof.

Originally posted by Galan007
There is no proof whatsoever that those alternate IG's are equal to the 616 gems.

But during the arc it was stated they did control their respective dimensions which means pretty much power over Eternity anyways.

Originally posted by Stoic
Does that really make sense to you? Eternity means unending, which should mean that he encompasses not only the 616 Universe, but all other parallel universes, and their sub counter parts, this would also include the Negative Zone. Anyways Marvel should stop painting themselves into corners.

It is a whole semantic discussion imo, but Eternity's physical body is made of the visible face of the 616 universe at any given time, but Eternity can change of identity during time-shifts. Let's just say it's an abstract and it's harder to impose the idea of identity to it.

Originally posted by Bentley
But during the arc it was stated they did control their respective dimensions which means pretty much power over Eternity anyways.