Originally posted by Galan007Hey now, don't be a sour puss.
I only stated exactly what was shown/described in that scene.
In any case, no where in that scene does it state,
or even suggest that all of Eternity's power is limited to a global affect.
What did happen is exactly what I posted before:
Eternity attacks Thanos, and as a result,
the planet Thanos stood on was destroyed.
Originally posted by Galan007Except in that instance, it was specifically stated how much damage Owen's blast could have caused. In the scene I posted, however, we only saw a single planet being destroyed, and Thanos (who at that time possessed relative omniscience) only made mention of that one planet having been destroyed:
And still,
if anyone believes that scene is even attempting to make such an absurd statement,
they're kidding themselves.
Originally posted by Galan007You seem to be implying that we should assume Eternity's blast was ludicrously powerful, despite nothing being suggestive of such. That, imho, seems more illogical than what I've stated. *shrug*
Not just illogical, but I have to 😆
The Celestials (barring Scathan) are Eternity's creative puppets.
Originally posted by King Castlejust b/c eternity was tryin to kill thanos doesnt mean that is the full result of his power.. it was just a minor side effect when the planet was destroyed...
you can have universal power but in comics it seems it can be concentrated into a small beam without effecting its surroundings.
According to Roma (the Omniversal guardian)
Eternity contains "ALL That Ever Was, Ever Is, or Ever Will Be"
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But ... to Roma, what is ... "ALL That Ever Was, Ever Is, or Ever Will Be?"
Well ... Roma operates from a station called the "Starlight Citadel"
"from this venue, the Guardian of Reality can view events on every plane of the Omniverse"
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But still, she could be talking garbage right?
Until we actually see how Eternity affects ALL Universes!
"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,
the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS"
(Infinity is part of this, but sometimes she's depicted, sometimes not, many times Eternity is both)
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*shrug*
And meh, like I said before,
since back in the late 70's,
Eternity has been portrayed as a power where entire Universes are nothing to him:
Eternity is Time incarnated ...
When he raises a Hand which holds whole universeS withIN it,
Past Present and Future"
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Over 30 years later, Dr Strange is still telling it like it is, or how it should be:
Strange:
"As I suspected,
he's managed to siphon off the Infinite energies of Eternity himself"
Namor:
"You speak as if Dormammu has become some kind of ... GOD."
Strange:
"GOD --- may be too small a word"
Namor:
"We've face self-styled gods before ... everytime we've stopped them"
Strange:
"You don't understand?
Eternity IS A GOD! He is ...
the complete embodiment of everyone and everything ...
... on All levels of Creation"
Originally posted by Mr Master
And meh, like I said before,
since back in the late 70's,
Eternity has been portrayed as a power where entire Universes are nothing to him:
And yet he's been humiliated by beings such as Nightmare and Zom. Universes are nothing, but minor demon lords have him wetting his panties 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007I lol'd.
At least you didn't copy/paste stuff this time. noneAnywho, I guess you're right. The blast Eternity unleashed was definitely more powerful than Thanos said it was. I mean, my God, Eternity has whole universeS in his gawd damn palm. His PALM!
ha-jam
Bran just likes to eat penis, nevermind him. He's probably still bent up on Galactus nearly dying from a planet collapsing and some explosions in the Hunger arc.
And Mr Master, you really need to get rid of those Word saves and improvise a bit. I mean, are you even enjoying these discussions at all?
Originally posted by Galan007
...Which doesn't change the fact that creating something does not automatically make you more powerful than it.Regardless, neither Eternity or the Celestials have much going for them in the feat department. So the outcome is really dependent on personal opinion.
I understand that, but the analogy you picked underscored the exact opposite position: it took oppenheimer and all those other guys months and months of research to even lay the framework for the atom bomb.
Eternity literally went to a quiet corner, and the Celestials (again, literaly) sprang forth from his thoughts.
There's a clear distinction between the two processes and how much effort was exerted in the outcomes.
You can argue that creating something does not support the assumption that the creator is automatically more powerful than the created, which is where the analogy applies.
Where it's thrown into serious doubt is when the actual effort in the creation is totally on a different scale entirely. In that case, creating something DOES support the argument that the creator is more powerful than the created. God created the Earth, the universe, and all its inhabitants and populations in less than a week. The degree of ease strongly suggests creator>>>>creations. That's the case of Eternity, though of course neither have the feats to support it.
But that's a more valid look.
Originally posted by zopzop
And yet he's been humiliated by beings such as Nightmare and Zom. Universes are nothing, but minor demon lords have him wetting his panties 🙂
Nightmare... yeah that was a low showing (although some of the things Eternity did while possessed by Nightmare were pretty high showings).
Originally posted by King Kandy
[B]Zom is no "minor demon lord", and Eternity wasn't humiliated by him either (in fact, Eternity was the one who sealed him in the first place).
With Dormammu's help. It's not just Zom either, Hank Pym and the Avengers saved his sorry ass from Chthon recently too. The self same Chthon that gets the vapors when Atum shows up.
Nightmare... yeah that was a low showing (although some of the things Eternity did while possessed by Nightmare were pretty high showings).
He's had other humiliations that I don't feel like reviewing. It's not just Nightmare. He's not the Jobber King for no reason.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
nightmares showing wasnt a low showing, he actually got eternity by causing 1/3 of the universe population to go to sleep so it made eternity go to sleep thus putting him in nightmares jurisdiction
