Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
matter manipulation was not taken away by the OP. He only mentioned ENERGY manipulation. Thanos can mind rape Kurse (never seen any resistance feats for him) Hulk can get gamma drained. Even if it goes physical... Thanos will put these guys down before he goes down.
Question. Has Thanos ever gamma drained anyone, or shown that he was capable of doing so? Also the gamma energy that was leaking out of WWHulk at it's conclusion, was flowing out by the truck load. Are you positively sure, that Thanos could contain all of that energy without it harming him?
Also you don't think that you may be underestimating the Hulk, and overestimating Thanos' ability to contain him on any level if he decided not to hold back and go full steam world breaker on him, while Kurse held him?
I don't see him taking these guys under these conditions. I see them just wrecking his ass, and stomping the crap out of him. You ever see a movie called Menace to Society? there was a seen in it that comes to mind when I think of how badly they would beat Thanos.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiMatter manipulation requires energy manipulation. Think about it.
matter manipulation was not taken away by the OP. He only mentioned ENERGY manipulation. Thanos can mind rape Kurse (never seen any resistance feats for him) Hulk can get gamma drained. Even if it goes physical... Thanos will put these guys down before he goes down.
Thanos is weak here. WWH or Kurse alone would stomp him good. I don't even accept that Thanos is more than 2x strong as Thor.
Also, just because two beings go at each other for a little while doesn't mean they are the same strength. Skill, durability, and speed play roles in the fight too. Namor, CA, Thing, etc. has lasted against beings that are stronger.
Originally posted by StoicDid you watch the end? Karma is a ***** anyways this team isn't stomping shit Hulk won't have the chance to go Worldbreaker Thanos puts him on his back then proceeds to wreck Kurse unless Thanos fights like a moron he should win a majority
Question. Has Thanos ever gamma drained anyone, or shown that he was capable of doing so? Also the gamma energy that was leaking out of WWHulk at it's conclusion, was flowing out by the truck load. Are you positively sure, that Thanos could contain all of that energy without it harming him?Also you don't think that you may be underestimating the Hulk, and overestimating Thanos' ability to contain him on any level if he decided not to hold back and go full steam world breaker on him, while Kurse held him?
I don't see him taking these guys under these conditions. I see them just wrecking his ass, and stomping the crap out of him. You ever see a movie called Menace to Society? there was a seen in it that comes to mind when I think of how badly they would beat Thanos.
Originally posted by Stoic
Question. Has Thanos ever gamma drained anyone, or shown that he was capable of doing so? Also the gamma energy that was leaking out of WWHulk at it's conclusion, was flowing out by the truck load. Are you positively sure, that Thanos could contain all of that energy without it harming him?Also you don't think that you may be underestimating the Hulk, and overestimating Thanos' ability to contain him on any level if he decided not to hold back and go full steam world breaker on him, while Kurse held him?
I don't see him taking these guys under these conditions. I see them just wrecking his ass, and stomping the crap out of him. You ever see a movie called Menace to Society? there was a seen in it that comes to mind when I think of how badly they would beat Thanos.
No I've never seen him manipulate Gamma Radiation as he has never had to. However, in thanos you're dealing with someone who is very good at energy and matter manipulation. That is what I'm basing it on. What I am CERTAIN about is that he could take all the gamma radiation hulk could dish out and take it just fun. There is zero question about that. Whether he could just drain him would be the question. His about to take it if he could is not. You must remember in Thanos we are dealing with someone who took the naked energies of the HOTU being absorbed into his being. It was noted that he was choosen because of his will power n being able to take those energies. We are talking about an energy exponentionally more power than any gamma radiation hulk cuold poor out. So there is zero doubt about that part, in fact, it would nothing compared to what he has already taken.
Furthermore, those energies coming out from that hulk was at WBH levels not at the hulk we are dealing with here WWH. So it really isn't applicable anyways.
Kurse holding Thanos... no that wouldn't happen. Are you forgetting how strong Thanos is? He is already many times stronger than Thor. So kurse being this amount stronger than thanos doesn't matter in the least.. so is Thanos. In fact, he is already many times stronger than a hulk who is pissed. Are we forgetting he laughed and mocked a pissed off hulks strength already. Not just Hulk but also with the Thing. He told them as he was overpowering them at the same time.. you call yourselves strong.. I am strength personified. What does that tell us.. he is already many times stronger than Hulk and Thing combined. now granted WWH was the strongest incarnation we have seen and stronger than that hulk as well. Cool.. they both are.. so why would then feel like WWH is THAT much stronger than Thanos? I wouldn't take that leap.
Lastly, are we forgetting that The Sentry already made this version of Hulk burn out and revert back to Banner. They had a heated battle that overloaded the Hulk. I believe Thanos is above The Sentry with ease.. and thus I see no reason what so ever that Thanos woulld make Hulk burn out if The Sentry could. As stated before Thanos can forceblock either of these two with ease for an easy win. If a forceblock could hold a not holding back with the PG for HOURS before he would be able to break out. I see NO reason why that wouldn't hold Kurse or WWH for a victory. Plus the matter manipulation I mentioned earlier as far as manipulating the battlefield as he saw fit. His teleporation abilities will keep him out of harms way if he so chooses.
So to answer your question.. no I feel I'm spot on in saying Thanos beats both of these guys while being handicapped.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No I've never seen him manipulate Gamma Radiation as he has never had to. However, in thanos you're dealing with someone who is very good at energy and matter manipulation. That is what I'm basing it on. What I am CERTAIN about is that he could take all the gamma radiation hulk could dish out and take it just fun. There is zero question about that. Whether he could just drain him would be the question. His about to take it if he could is not. You must remember in Thanos we are dealing with someone who took the naked energies of the HOTU being absorbed into his being. It was noted that he was choosen because of his will power n being able to take those energies. We are talking about an energy exponentionally more power than any gamma radiation hulk cuold poor out. So there is zero doubt about that part, in fact, it would nothing compared to what he has already taken.Furthermore, those energies coming out from that hulk was at WBH levels not at the hulk we are dealing with here WWH. So it really isn't applicable anyways.
Kurse holding Thanos... no that wouldn't happen. Are you forgetting how strong Thanos is? He is already many times stronger than Thor. So kurse being this amount stronger than thanos doesn't matter in the least.. so is Thanos. In fact, he is already many times stronger than a hulk who is pissed. Are we forgetting he laughed and mocked a pissed off hulks strength already. Not just Hulk but also with the Thing. He told them as he was overpowering them at the same time.. you call yourselves strong.. I am strength personified. What does that tell us.. he is already many times stronger than Hulk and Thing combined. now granted WWH was the strongest incarnation we have seen and stronger than that hulk as well. Cool.. they both are.. so why would then feel like WWH is THAT much stronger than Thanos? I wouldn't take that leap.
Lastly, are we forgetting that The Sentry already made this version of Hulk burn out and revert back to Banner. They had a heated battle that overloaded the Hulk. I believe Thanos is above The Sentry with ease.. and thus I see no reason what so ever that Thanos woulld make Hulk burn out if The Sentry could. As stated before Thanos can forceblock either of these two with ease for an easy win. If a forceblock could hold a not holding back with the PG for HOURS before he would be able to break out. I see NO reason why that wouldn't hold Kurse or WWH for a victory. Plus the matter manipulation I mentioned earlier as far as manipulating the battlefield as he saw fit. His teleporation abilities will keep him out of harms way if he so chooses.
So to answer your question.. no I feel I'm spot on in saying Thanos beats both of these guys while being handicapped.
It's impossible for you to prove that Thanos is at least 2x as strong as Thor. All you have is a silly feat against Thing and a weak Hulk. You can't even prove that WM Thor was more than 2x stronger than his normal non holding back self. Just unfounded beliefs about Thanos being stronger.
Wow...
The supremely inflated view of Thanos remains undiminished here I see; Thanos gets a** raped by these two in hand to hand combat btw...
Hell, I honestly believe that Thanos gets soloed by WWH in a pure phyiscal confrontation; if Thanos can access his other powers and tech, then he can fight smart and maybe win...but no way in hell does he win hand to hand.
Add in Kurse and this is spite against Thanos; assumming a pure hand to hand confrontation of course...
And no, it will not be close...they are going to beat him into bloody purple goo...the mad titan has no prayer here.
As concerns Thor during Blood and Thunder:
1) Thor was NOT in true Warriors Madness (this was directly stated by Odin after he gave Thanos a butt whippin), thus his strength was not x10 as some erroneously assume.
2) Thor ONLY tapped into the power gem subconsciously...inaddition, in a prior issue of B&T, it was directly stated on panel when he was doing so (when Warlock and Strange combined to attempt to take him down to be precise)...and there was NEVER anything stated on panel saying that Thor was tapping into the gem when he was beating up Thanos.
So, unless someone can prove otherwise, we are left with an insane...non-holding back...Thor bloodying Thanos's face.
And with that in mind, you Thanos zealots want us to believe that this same Thanos could take out Kurse and WWH in a phyical confrontation!?
Have you guys lost your dam minds!??
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No I've never seen him manipulate Gamma Radiation as he has never had to. However, in thanos you're dealing with someone who is very good at energy and matter manipulation. That is what I'm basing it on. What I am CERTAIN about is that he could take all the gamma radiation hulk could dish out and take it just fun. There is zero question about that. Whether he could just drain him would be the question. His about to take it if he could is not. You must remember in Thanos we are dealing with someone who took the naked energies of the HOTU being absorbed into his being. It was noted that he was choosen because of his will power n being able to take those energies. We are talking about an energy exponentionally more power than any gamma radiation hulk cuold poor out. So there is zero doubt about that part, in fact, it would nothing compared to what he has already taken.Furthermore, those energies coming out from that hulk was at WBH levels not at the hulk we are dealing with here WWH. So it really isn't applicable anyways.
Kurse holding Thanos... no that wouldn't happen. Are you forgetting how strong Thanos is? He is already many times stronger than Thor. So kurse being this amount stronger than thanos doesn't matter in the least.. so is Thanos. In fact, he is already many times stronger than a hulk who is pissed. Are we forgetting he laughed and mocked a pissed off hulks strength already. Not just Hulk but also with the Thing. He told them as he was overpowering them at the same time.. you call yourselves strong.. I am strength personified. What does that tell us.. he is already many times stronger than Hulk and Thing combined. now granted WWH was the strongest incarnation we have seen and stronger than that hulk as well. Cool.. they both are.. so why would then feel like WWH is THAT much stronger than Thanos? I wouldn't take that leap.
Lastly, are we forgetting that The Sentry already made this version of Hulk burn out and revert back to Banner. They had a heated battle that overloaded the Hulk. I believe Thanos is above The Sentry with ease.. and thus I see no reason what so ever that Thanos woulld make Hulk burn out if The Sentry could. As stated before Thanos can forceblock either of these two with ease for an easy win. If a forceblock could hold a not holding back with the PG for HOURS before he would be able to break out. I see NO reason why that wouldn't hold Kurse or WWH for a victory. Plus the matter manipulation I mentioned earlier as far as manipulating the battlefield as he saw fit. His teleporation abilities will keep him out of harms way if he so chooses.
So to answer your question.. no I feel I'm spot on in saying Thanos beats both of these guys while being handicapped.
WW Hulk at his best is in world breaker mode, as the forum rules suggest.
No one knows what level Sentry was operating on, but the book suggests that he was about as powerful as he was when he folded Terrax. (due to his little disscussion with Tony to help him mentally prep himself for the battle) Remember when he broke Terrax with a smile?
World Breaker Hulk was even more powerful at the end of his fight with Sentry, than he was when they began and at a weaker state when he was matching Sentry blow for blow, and he was growing dangerously more powerful by the second when he was about to sink the eastern seaboard.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Wow...The supremely inflated view of Thanos remains undiminished here I see; Thanos gets a** raped by these two in hand to hand combat btw...
Hell, I honestly believe that Thanos gets soloed by WWH in a pure phyiscal confrontation; if Thanos can access his other powers and tech, then he can fight smart and maybe win...but no way in hell does he win hand to hand.
Add in Kurse and this is spite against Thanos; assumming a pure hand to hand confrontation of course...
And no, it will not be close...they are going to beat him into bloody purple goo...the mad titan has no prayer here.
No kidding, and recently Thanos was reduced to a skeleton by an anti matter grenade, imagine what Blue marvel would do to him.