Originally posted by Mshinu
You mean that time All-father Odin, pretty much high-end skyfather personified, gave his best shot at putting `ol purple chin down and FAILED?Yep, I totally see him failing to put Hulkie boy and Kurse down too 😉
Thanos whups these wannabees with one hand behind his back and they can`t do a damn thing about it.
its not 1 hand behind the back they ripped off his arm and ate him for breakfast he is nothing to those vicious brawlers if he plays there game he will lose
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
As concerns Thor during Blood and Thunder:1) Thor was NOT in true Warriors Madness (this was directly stated by Odin after he gave Thanos a butt whippin), thus his strength was not x10 as some erroneously assume.
2) Thor ONLY tapped into the power gem subconsciously...inaddition, in a prior issue of B&T, it was directly stated on panel when he was doing so (when Warlock and Strange combined to attempt to take him down to be precise)...and there was NEVER anything stated on panel saying that Thor was tapping into the gem when he was beating up Thanos.
So, unless someone can [b]prove
otherwise, we are left with an insane...non-holding back...Thor bloodying Thanos's face.And with that in mind, you Thanos zealots want us to believe that this same Thanos could take out Kurse and WWH in a phyical confrontation!?
Have you guys lost your dam minds!?? [/B]
You have zero clue what you're talking about as usual. It doesn't matter if it's true WM or not... he was cearly operating at a level not normally seen by him. He has never dealt with Strange and the Watch with such ease as he did then. Warlock believed he was in WM because of this fact. So whether he was or not, the fact remains, it was a amp of sorts and he was operating at a level not normally scene.
He was tapping into the gem you twit. Why do you think Eternity said.. that if he wasn't put in check he would become a threat to him. Do you understand what that means.. he would become a threat to an abstract? This is way way way above his normal levels... in fact... exponentially above his normal levels. Yet you claim there is no proof he was tapping into the gem LOL LOL. Lets not forget that in the force block thanos calculated that he was increasing in power and the block would only be able to hold him for a certain amount of time... Yet you say he wasn't tapping into the gem. It was outright stated and shown that he was. Then again, you have a reading comprehension issue so maybe that is why you didn't pick up on it.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You have zero clue what you're talking about as usual. It doesn't matter if it's true WM or not... he was cearly operating at a level not normally seen by him. He has never dealt with Strange and the Watch with such ease as he did then. Warlock believed he was in WM because of this fact. So whether he was or not, the fact remains, it was a amp of sorts and he was operating at a level not normally scene.He was tapping into the gem you twit. Why do you think Eternity said.. that if he wasn't put in check he would become a threat to him. Do you understand what that means.. he would become a threat to an abstract? This is way way way above his normal levels... in fact... exponentially above his normal levels. Yet you claim there is no proof he was tapping into the gem LOL LOL. Lets not forget that in the force block thanos calculated that he was increasing in power and the block would only be able to hold him for a certain amount of time... Yet you say he wasn't tapping into the gem. It was outright stated and shown that he was. Then again, you have a reading comprehension issue so maybe that is why you didn't pick up on it.
The comments made could very well mean that Thor could tap into the gem and get stronger and stronger through out time. You are a con artist. You twist words to make your argument appear so extreme that believing anything else is asinine. For example, when you said, "This is way way above his normal levels..." you were implying that Thor was already at those levels fighting Thanos and not that he had the potential to be. The panel clearly meant that Thor had the potential to be and not that he already was. Your twisting words to try to trick people is uncool.
With that said, Thor did absolutely nothing to suggest he was much more powerful than a normal non holding back more aggressive Thor.
I've seen more impressive feats from a very very serious Thor.
IMO, all of his normal very aggressive blows would have done the same damage or had the same effect in appearance. Normal Thor never failed at effecting Thanos with his physical attacks. If a very very serious bloodlusted Thor fought Thanos without the PG, the fight would have went the same way. This is truth!
Originally posted by h1a8
You too have a reading comprehension problem I think. Lord claimed that Thor wasn't tapping into the gem WHEN he fought Thanos (but he clearly mentioned that he was at other times). He tapped into it against the Strange and Warlock attack and also the force block. No where else did it state he was tapping into the gem or by how much if he was. If Thor was greatly tapping into the gem when he fought Thanos then the writer would have clearly mentioned this (to explain what Thanos was really up against). The writer and artist made it appear that normal aggressive Thor was fighting Thanos. So if Thor had any amp due to the power gem at the time then it was small. I agree he had an amp due to being more aggressive and non holding back though but not so much due to the gem.The comments made could very well mean that Thor could tap into the gem and get stronger and stronger through out time. You are a con artist. You twist words to make your argument appear so extreme that believing anything else is asinine. For example, when you said, "This is way way above his normal levels..." you were implying that Thor was already at those levels fighting Thanos and not that he had the potential to be. The panel clearly meant that Thor had the potential to be and not that he already was. Your twisting words to try to trick people is uncool.
With that said, Thor did absolutely nothing to suggest he was much more powerful than a normal non holding back more aggressive Thor.
I've seen more impressive feats from a very very serious Thor.IMO, all of his normal very aggressive blows would have done the same damage or had the same effect in appearance. Normal Thor never failed at effecting Thanos with his physical attacks. If a very very serious bloodlusted Thor fought Thanos without the PG, the fight would have went the same way. This is truth!
The only con here is your lack of logic and common sense which you try and actually turn into an argument. Think about your premise... you concede he was tapping into the gem while fighting the IW. Cool we agree. Then you go... well he could've turned it out because it was never specifically mentioned? LOL LOL. Do you know how stupid that makes you look? Thanos is a much much bigger threat than Strange, BRB, Surfer or any of those guys. Strange has admitted he isn't on the same league as Thanos... Thanos has made surfer look like a weak feab. Yet you expect people to believe Thor decided to tap into the gem with less dangerous foes than Thanos but turned it off to fight a more dangerous one? Do you understand how stupid and silly you both look trying to make such an argument? It defies common sense and the plain presentation of the comic to take such a illogical stance. He was tapping in into the gem and still got deal with by Thanos who won that fight. A thor with an amp (mental state and not holding back) plus the PG couldn't even put Thanos down and only made him have a trickle of blood and a smile. While Thanos knocked thor all around the place and even through the floor. This gives you an idea just how many levels Thanos is above Thor. It's that much.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The only con here is your lack of logic and common sense which you try and actually turn into an argument. Think about your premise... you concede he was tapping into the gem while fighting the IW. Cool we agree. Then you go... well he could've turned it out because it was never specifically mentioned? LOL LOL. Do you know how stupid that makes you look? Thanos is a much much bigger threat than Strange, BRB, Surfer or any of those guys. Strange has admitted he isn't on the same league as Thanos... Thanos has made surfer look like a weak feab. Yet you expect people to believe Thor decided to tap into the gem with less dangerous foes than Thanos but turned it off to fight a more dangerous one? Do you understand how stupid and silly you both look trying to make such an argument? It defies common sense and the plain presentation of the comic to take such a illogical stance. He was tapping in into the gem and still got deal with by Thanos who won that fight. A thor with an amp (mental state and not holding back) plus the PG couldn't even put Thanos down and only made him have a trickle of blood and a smile. While Thanos knocked thor all around the place and even through the floor. This gives you an idea just how many levels Thanos is above Thor. It's that much.
I didn't claim he was tapping into the gem while fighting the IW. I said he tapped into the gem (momentarily) while fighting them (to backlash their blast and not to gain physical strength). This is a big difference. If you still don't understand I'll explain differently.
There is a big difference between
1. Continually tapping into the gem at every moment to gain physical strength.
and
2. Tapping into the gem momentarily for a specific purpose not pertained to gaining physical strength.
Again, Thor's tapping then wasn't to gain physical strength but to turn the energy blast back at Strange and Warlock. Once the blasts were reversed Thor tended to business as usual.
Actually, Strange and Surfer are far bigger threats to Thor than Thanos is. Strange is simply far more powerful and versatile than Thanos and SS is too fast and has specific powers to either end Thor quickly or quickly put him at a disavantage. If Strange ever admitted to not being on the same league as Thanos (incorrect grammer) then he was simply either full of sh!t or referring to being in a higher league than Thanos. This is like Superman saying that he is not on the same league as WW or Supergirl (either full of it or meant a higher league than them).
Thanos beating on SS is contradictory to what will really happen thus that evidence is weak.
Also, Thor was beating the crap outta Thanos. He was winning the fight not Thanos. Thor had taken absolutely no damage. WTF is getting hit through a floor going to do to a herald level being in durability? Floors are softer than cardboard to these guys. Come on! Thanos face was bloody. Stop trying to water that down by saying trickle. Thor didn't even hit Thanos with a slam at that. He just used mere punches and weak slaps with the hammer. The only slam Thor used was blocked by Thanos shield. Thanos won because he left the battlefield to get a gun to put Thor in a forceblock. If Thor fought at his best he wouldn't have let Thanos leave to get the gun. He sat there like an idiot and watched Thanos go get the gun. WTF is that?
Personally I see Thanos as being above Thor by a small amount. But a very serious and bloodlusted Thor is IMO clearly above Thanos.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiWhy do you stoop to his level? Once he notices hes being ignored he will stfu
The only con here is your lack of logic and common sense which you try and actually turn into an argument. Think about your premise... you concede he was tapping into the gem while fighting the IW. Cool we agree. Then you go... well he could've turned it out because it was never specifically mentioned? LOL LOL. Do you know how stupid that makes you look? Thanos is a much much bigger threat than Strange, BRB, Surfer or any of those guys. Strange has admitted he isn't on the same league as Thanos... Thanos has made surfer look like a weak feab. Yet you expect people to believe Thor decided to tap into the gem with less dangerous foes than Thanos but turned it off to fight a more dangerous one? Do you understand how stupid and silly you both look trying to make such an argument? It defies common sense and the plain presentation of the comic to take such a illogical stance. He was tapping in into the gem and still got deal with by Thanos who won that fight. A thor with an amp (mental state and not holding back) plus the PG couldn't even put Thanos down and only made him have a trickle of blood and a smile. While Thanos knocked thor all around the place and even through the floor. This gives you an idea just how many levels Thanos is above Thor. It's that much.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Thanos is immune to death and his current durability is on the rise to levels that can take anything these guys can dish out.
He was flattened out by an anti matter grenade, the cosmic cube brought him back from the durability that you are suggesting.
Also this thing about Thanos tanking Thor with full access of the Power Gem goes against his former showing against Magus who would have turned him inside out if his blow had fully connected.
Thor is his state of mind was incapable of using the PG to any degree. There is proof that a person with more functional faculties than Thor at the time of possessing the PG needed extensive training with the PG to harness less than half of the PG's full potential. Titania is the person that I am talking about, the Champion had to show her how to access it, and like i said before, she was working with more cards in her deck than Thor was at the time of his possession.
Why should I, or anyone else for that matter, believe that Thor in his berserker state was even accessing the PG at all? Food for thought.
Originally posted by iceman24567Who care's about being ignored. It wouldn't stop anyone from quoting or debating the issue. It is better to challenge someone who is wrong (not saying I am) than to let the arguments linger. Otherwise, they would be accepted by many to be truth.
Why do you stoop to his level? Once he notices hes being ignored he will stfu
P.S. my arguments are cogent. Thus my many would have to scale up to my level, and not stoop down.
Originally posted by h1a8
Who care's about being ignored. It wouldn't stop anyone from quoting or debating the issue. It is better to challenge someone who is wrong (not saying I am) than to let the arguments linger. Otherwise, they would be accepted by many to be truth.P.S. my arguments are cogent. Thus my many would have to scale up to my level, and not stoop down.
Oh, does that sound like a scared Troll or what?
Good Lord...
Thanosi needs to go back to 2nd grade reading class and learn what a paragraph is; his writing style is atrocious...
In addition, I had a long drawn out retort to his inane rambling (one which pretty much mirrors what h1a8 had to say), but why bother...this guy is clearly incapable of holding an objective, rational, discussion as pertains Thanos, so arguing with this guy is a complete waste of time.
Btw, h1a8, your name suggests that you just might be a chess player...is my belief accurate?