Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Nah, it would have to be a non-death trap. I don't know much Batman, but I assume that they don't call him that for no reason at all.
Originally posted by carver9
The thing about it is none super saiyan goku is still to much for the skrull race. Black hair goku>first form frieza. Again black hair vegeta black hair goku, hell, even nappa is to much for the skrull race. They literally one blast them.
Originally posted by King Kandy
How? The Skrull Race spans a galaxy. I doubt the saiyans spaceships even have the capacity to hunt them out like that. And like was already said, their homeworld could be completely ravaged by space bombings and there's not a whole lot they could do about it. The saiyans have decent technology, but it's no match for the skrulls, and without said technology they don't even have a way to get off-planet.
I agree with some of this except the bombard from space. Bardock alone flew out of planet vegeta atmosphere into space far enough for him to launch an attack at frieza space ship. If one saiyan alone does this that alone would be trouble for the ships that are bombarding the planet since the saiyan possess enough speed to launch numerous of moon busting blast almost instantly and again this is just one saiyan and the weakest of them.
I'm pretty sure they are more powerful than the picollo and roshi that busted a moon with ease since the saiyans were raised on a planet with ten times earth gravity. Then we also have too look at the fact that one saiyan child alone had enough power to take over a planet (which was stated and was the main reason goku was launched to earth as a child) so again one saiyan alone should be able to take out multitudes of skrulls. Adding goku or vegeta is just over kill... the skrulls wouldn't even know let alone see what is whipping them out.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with some of this except the bombard from space. Bardock alone flew out of planet vegeta atmosphere into space far enough for him to launch an attack at frieza space ship. If one saiyan alone does this that alone would be trouble for the ships that are bombarding the planet since the saiyan possess enough speed to launch numerous of moon busting blast almost instantly and again this is just one saiyan and the weakest of them.I'm pretty sure they are more powerful than the picollo and roshi that busted a moon with ease since the saiyans were raised on a planet with ten times earth gravity. Then we also have too look at the fact that one saiyan child alone had enough power to take over a planet (which was stated and was the main reason goku was launched to earth as a child) so again one saiyan alone should be able to take out multitudes of skrulls. Adding goku or vegeta is just over kill... the skrulls wouldn't even know let alone see what is whipping them out.
Hell, without the full moon the Saiyans couldn't even beat the Tuffles, and the Skrull technology is way way way above theirs.
Vegeta and Goku aren't in the fight (this has been gone over before). The Saiyans have NO WAY to actually attack the Skrulls. Their space ships are primitive in comparison to the Skrulls, if they mount an offensive they can be blown from space long before they even reach a Skrull world to attack.
You're thinking about this from the perspective of all the saiyans and their raw power vs. the Skrulls, in one place. You need to think logistics. How could the Saiyans mount the kind of invasion needed to conquer an advanced galaxy? Brute strength alone won't do it, not while Saiyans can't survive in space. Without tech they are stuck on planet vegeta, and they are sitting ducks. And what tech they do have is very unimpressive.
Originally posted by King Kandy
First of all, that's not canon to the manga. Secondly, Bardock wasn't the weakest he was the STRONGEST saiyan at the time (with over 10,000 power level he was above King Vegeta). thirdly we are talking about tons of ships here, and they don't even need human pilots they can be completely on auto pilot, the Skrull empire can keep this shit up for years if they need to. Just because they can destroy a moon doesn't mean that they can handle carpet bombing.Hell, without the full moon the Saiyans couldn't even beat the Tuffles, and the Skrull technology is way way way above theirs.
Vegeta and Goku aren't in the fight (this has been gone over before). The Saiyans have NO WAY to actually attack the Skrulls. Their space ships are primitive in comparison to the Skrulls, if they mount an offensive they can be blown from space long before they even reach a Skrull world to attack.
You're thinking about this from the perspective of all the saiyans and their raw power vs. the Skrulls, in one place. You need to think logistics. How could the Saiyans mount the kind of invasion needed to conquer an advanced galaxy? Brute strength alone won't do it, not while Saiyans can't survive in space. Without tech they are stuck on planet vegeta, and they are sitting ducks. And what tech they do have is very unimpressive.
Bardock wasnt in the manga at all to my knowledge. He was mentioned but none of that was shown in the manga.
I agree with everything that you are saying... have a question though... Broly had the power level of 10000 when he was born and he created a force field around his body which aided him in space flight. Do you think that the saiyans are capable of accomplishing the same thing to aid them in flying through space. I know they can hold their breaths but I dont think it will be long enough for them to get to their destination so with that said, I agree with everything that you mentioned. Now if we were talking about landing bardock on the skrull planet, he can solo and conquer that planet in no time at all but using your perspective... I give it to the skrulls.
I dont think they would kill the saiyans but I do think that the saiyans wouldnt have a choice but to give up. How do you think the skrulls would do against someone like Frieza?
Originally posted by carver9
Bardock wasnt in the manga at all to my knowledge. He was mentioned but none of that was shown in the manga.I agree with everything that you are saying... have a question though... Broly had the power level of 10000 when he was born and he created a force field around his body which aided him in space flight. Do you think that the saiyans are capable of accomplishing the same thing to aid them in flying through space. I know they can hold their breaths but I dont think it will be long enough for them to get to their destination so with that said, I agree with everything that you mentioned. Now if we were talking about landing bardock on the skrull planet, he can solo and conquer that planet in no time at all but using your perspective... I give it to the skrulls.
I dont think they would kill the saiyans but I do think that the saiyans wouldnt have a choice but to give up. How do you think the skrulls would do against someone like Frieza?
Broly isn't canon.
I think Freeza would definitely have difficulty with the Skrulls. He could destroy a planet in final form, but an entire galaxy full of them would be quite a task for him.
Originally posted by King Kandyyeah...missed that.
Clearly you didn't read the bit about none of the "main character" saiyans being included, nor any using super-saiyan.
but taking that hypo...would you agree that any top tier saiyan (ones able to attain super saiyan form 2 or USSJ and beyond) could pretty much manhandle the skrulls?
Originally posted by King Kandy
Exactly my point.Broly isn't canon.
I think Freeza would definitely have difficulty with the Skrulls. He could destroy a planet in final form, but an entire galaxy full of them would be quite a task for him.
I know its not canon to the manga but anime is accepted here...
The legendary super saiyan was brought up in thye canon story and he survived friezas attack on the planet so I'm pretty sure that the way they showed it during his story truly happened that way.
Why would frieza have trouble when he can take out millions if not billion with one blast and continue this process with them not even seeing who is attacking them. Then he could just find the source... the skrull home world and blow that up. The skrulls have no way of harming let alone touching frieza.