Cross Genre Nominations #17

Originally posted by carver9
I know its not canon to the manga but anime is accepted here...

The legendary super saiyan was brought up in thye canon story and he survived friezas attack on the planet so I'm pretty sure that the way they showed it during his story truly happened that way.

Why would frieza have trouble when he can take out millions if not billion with one blast and continue this process with them not even seeing who is attacking them. Then he could just find the source... the skrull home world and blow that up. The skrulls have no way of harming let alone touching frieza.

No, THE Legendary Super Saiyan (as in, the original one who lived 1000 years ago) was brought up in the main series. The LSSJ FORM was never hinted at in the anime, nor was Broly ever mentioned. Just because there was a Super Saiyan, who had a legend about him, doesn't mean he's the same as anyone who is called "Legendary SSJ". Since Broly wasn't alive 1000 years ago, obviously they are different guys.

He can't take out a million planets with one blast, that's complete nonsense when he couldn't even destroy one without doing it by chain reaction. He'll have the same problem the Saiyans would, lack of transportation. He uses ships to get from place to place, and they can easily be blown out of space.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Sure, if we want to use the anime version, but then we also have to accept things like Goku having trouble lifting a car.

No, THE Legendary Super Saiyan (as in, the original one who lived 1000 years ago) was brought up in the main series. The LSSJ FORM was never hinted at in the anime, nor was Broly ever mentioned. Just because there was a Super Saiyan, who had a legend about him, doesn't mean he's the same as anyone who is called "Legendary SSJ". Since Broly wasn't alive 1000 years ago, obviously they are different guys.

He can't take out a million planets with one blast, that's complete nonsense when he couldn't even destroy one without doing it by chain reaction. He'll have the same problem the Saiyans would, lack of transportation. He uses ships to get from place to place, and they can easily be blown out of space.

Are you referring to kid goku not being able to lift a car? Well I don't have a problem with that since he wasn't all that powerful back then. Now if you look at the anime you have gohun gently tapping his feat during class creating a city wide earthquake. Then we have goku during the beginning of dbz lifting an 100 ft tall oak tree like it was nothing. Then we have gohun catching a fallen 300 passenger plane with one hand. Then let not even talk about their punching power.

I agree with your broly comment.

Lol... first thing frieza admitted during his time of trying to destroy planet that he held back. He knew he could destroy the planet but he stated that he held back and plus he was weakened. He stated that he used "all" of his power to stay alive from the spirit bomb. I don't even know why you are even mentioning this when at less than 1% of his power he destroyed planet vegeta... at 50% of his power he split planet namek in 1/3rd with just two fingers. Picollo also stated that if frieza wanted he could destroy planet namek instantly.

As for frieza flight... come on, we know why he was flying around in a ship. We do have this one instance though... there was one minute left before planet namek was about to explode. Frieza told goku that by the time planet namek exploded he would be long gone. Achieving light speed in space isn't hard... especially for someone like frieza. If ms. Marvel, iron man, and rogue can achieve light speed in space... frieza should be able to do it at a much faster pace.

Originally posted by carver9
Are you referring to kid goku not being able to lift a car? Well I don't have a problem with that since he wasn't all that powerful back then. Now if you look at the anime you have gohun gently tapping his feat during class creating a city wide earthquake. Then we have goku during the beginning of dbz lifting an 100 ft tall oak tree like it was nothing. Then we have gohun catching a fallen 300 passenger plane with one hand. Then let not even talk about their punching power.

I agree with your broly comment.

Lol... first thing frieza admitted during his time of trying to destroy planet that he held back. He knew he could destroy the planet but he stated that he held back and plus he was weakened. He stated that he used "all" of his power to stay alive from the spirit bomb. I don't even know why you are even mentioning this when at less than 1% of his power he destroyed planet vegeta... at 50% of his power he split planet namek in 1/3rd with just two fingers. Picollo also stated that if frieza wanted he could destroy planet namek instantly.

As for frieza flight... come on, we know why he was flying around in a ship. We do have this one instance though... there was one minute left before planet namek was about to explode. Frieza told goku that by the time planet namek exploded he would be long gone. Achieving light speed in space isn't hard... especially for someone like frieza. If ms. Marvel, iron man, and rogue can achieve light speed in space... frieza should be able to do it at a much faster pace.

What do you mean "holding back"? Yeah, he was at 50 percent power. Which means at best, he could only do twice that much. Destroying the planet vegeta in base form was anime only, in the manga our only indication of his "planet busting" power is that he can cause chain reactions that make a planet self destruct. Based on feats, there is just no way at all that Freeza can bust a galaxy's worth of planets.

First of all, Freeza could survive the planet's explosion, so it's not certain if "long gone" means exactly how far away, and even then, it certainly would not take lightspeed to get off of the planet. So really that feat doesn't tell us much of anything, and he still uses ships to get around. The Skrulls can just shoot him from space, it's not like it's in his character to be whizzing around outside of his ship, given he never did it once in the whole series.

Of all people I see freiza having the best chance against the skrulls.Don't ask me why but I see him doing better then any super sayian...mabye its cuz he can breathe in space whereas sayians can't.

Captain America vs. Ryu.

I'm pretty sure this would be a good matchup.

Originally posted by King Kandy
No, I mean during the "driving lessons" filler episode.

What do you mean "holding back"? Yeah, he was at 50 percent power. Which means at best, he could only do twice that much. Destroying the planet vegeta in base form was anime only, in the manga our only indication of his "planet busting" power is that he can cause chain reactions that make a planet self destruct. Based on feats, there is just no way at all that Freeza can bust a galaxy's worth of planets.

First of all, Freeza could survive the planet's explosion, so it's not certain if "long gone" means exactly how far away, and even then, it certainly would not take lightspeed to get off of the planet. So really that feat doesn't tell us much of anything, and he still uses ships to get around. The Skrulls can just shoot him from space, it's not like it's in his character to be whizzing around outside of his ship, given he never did it once in the whole series.

No... frieza stated that the spirit bomb took all of his power so if he held back or not, that still do not take away from the fact that he is a planet buster. Picollo stated that frieza can bust a planet instantly and goku said the same thing more than once and I believe the both of them since they can read power levels.

By the way can you show me this chain raection that you are talking about?

I know it wouldn't take light speed to get off of the planet but what I wanted you to understand is that flying at the speed of light through space is childs play for even people like iron man... so I feel pretty much safe to say that freiza can do the same thing since there isn't any gravity in space to hold his speed back.

The skrull isn't shooting someone that vegeta, picollo, and goku failed to shoot and even if they did tag him he would probably tank all of it. The reason he was in ships was because he had no reason to fly around in space... he just sat in that chair constantly and monitored everything that was going on. Kind of like beta ray bill... he could also fly through space with ease but he have skuttle bucket fly him instead due to its tech. There are numerous of beings hat can breath inspace but choose to fly in ships.

He might can't bust galaxy worth of planets but he sure as hell can cripple the skrull race and make them think twice about messing with him.

Guys, seriously, don't turn this in to a discussion thread. It's gone on long enough. This is a nominations thread, so state your nominations and why, and see if anyone responds and nods it.

It's out of hand at this point.

movie jean grey vs.....

mmm

Darth Vader Vs. Iron Spider-man.

No Force Choke or Mind Tricks.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
movie jean grey vs.....

Originally posted by illadelph12
Darth Vader Vs. Iron Spider-man.

No Force Choke or Mind Tricks.

Naah... Darth Vador would crush him.

Originally posted by marwash22
Tetsuo Shima.

^ dunno about that. But it's not a cross-genre match since there's no comic character, so nevermind.

Something Star Trek related.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Something Star Trek related.

^ sounds interesting. But how would it work, would we just post the intelligent things the character's have said?

Originally posted by carver9
Naah... Darth Vador would crush him.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
How? I can see him winning, but without his TK there's no way he's stomping Spider-Man.

Even with out force range ability or maniupulating spidermans mind, some one like Mace for example could easily kill spiderman with his light saber and physical prowesses (being amp by the force of course).

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
really depends at the level, you put him at.

Even with out force range ability or maniupulating spidermans mind, some one like Mace for example could easily kill spiderman with his light saber and physical prowesses (being amp by the force of course).

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
really depends at the level, you put him at.

Even with out force range ability or maniupulating spidermans mind, some one like Mace for example could easily kill spiderman with his light saber and physical prowesses (being amp by the force of course).

Also that statement is irrelevant to the topic at hand since Darth Vader isn't as agile as Mace.