Originally posted by Omega Vision
If we're talking PC Mantis then Annihilus gets his shit pushed in. The guy went toe to toe with SA Superman and drained Hal Jordan's ring (or maybe it was his battery) with ease.
Then it would depend on what was more powerful, the cosmic control rod or Mantis' energy drain, just keep in mind, that Anni not only drained the Quantum field, but he also ate Quasar.
Originally posted by Stoic
you know those magic types though, they have extreme highs one second, and the next extreme lows.
Just because Fate wasn't always at his dimension/Universe busting levels doesn't mean pwning him isn't an impressive feat because you don't want it to be.
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Originally posted by Omega Vision
This is the most retarded argument on the entire forum, and yet it crops up everywhere.Just because Fate wasn't always at his dimension/Universe busting levels doesn't mean pwning him isn't an impressive feat because you don't want it to be.
What I meant was, how easily it would be to walk up to Dr. Strange or Fate, and unexpectedly KO them with far less than it would take to KO Spiderman, and yet those same magic users have shown the ability to be able to defeat galactic and even universal threats.
If you react in this manner, you'll find that you project your accusations onto others, while not knowing the full extent behind certain comments. Perhaps you should attempt asking a question before you assume the worse.
Originally posted by Stoic
What I meant was, how easily it would be to walk up to Dr. Strange or Fate, and unexpectedly KO them with far less than it would take to KO Spiderman, and yet those same magic users have shown the ability to be able to defeat galactic and even universal threats.If you react in this manner, you'll find that you project your accusations onto others, while not knowing the full extent behind certain comments. Perhaps you should attempt asking a question before you assume the worse.
Mantis has had two encounters with Doctor Fate. He surprised an invisible, intangible Fate by sensing his energy and shooting a beam that affected him; the second time, he warped his magic to turn it back against him. Neither one was a low showing for Fate.
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Mantis has had two encounters with Doctor Fate. He surprised an invisible, intangible Fate by sensing his energy and shooting a beam that affected him; the second time, he warped his magic to turn it back against him. Neither one was a low showing for Fate.
One of the feats seem very impressive, while the other seems more like Fate who thought he was in an ambush stance, was the one being ambushed. You know what I mean?
What I found impressive also was how, Annihilus not only survived the Galactus wave, but how well he did against Nova Prime, and Quasar in a weakened state after surviving it. Annihilus at full strength was a beast.
Originally posted by Stoic
One of the feats seem very impressive, while the other seems more like Fate who thought he was in an ambush stance, was the one being ambushed. You know what I mean?
True. The former was a high showing for Mantis considering that he defeated Jordan, Wonder Woman, and Fate at the same time, and it showed the extent of his energy manipulation. The latter was more of a outlier showing (that he could damage intangible opponents) but it's not necessarily a low showing for Fate. Fate attempted to sneak past Mantis, Mantis knew he was there, and he caught Fate off-guard. It went pretty much according to expectations.
Originally posted by Stoic
What I found impressive also was how, Annihilus not only survived the Galactus wave, but how well he did against Nova Prime, and Quasar in a weakened state after surviving it. Annihilus at full strength was a beast.
Indeed. It should be noted that he was hit with a energy blast of unknown power from a newbie Quasar. Surviving Galactus' fury with only weakened defenses was a high feat. However, I see no way he can counter Mantis' energy suck.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Dr. Fate back then had great durability and strength. Could amp his stats to near Superman level. He didn't have the weakness Dr. Strange had.
I'm 99% sure that Fate was not amped in the first encounter, and there was no indication that he was amped in the second.