Carnage & Venom Vs The Gorgon & Daken

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Cletus isn't dead

yes YES OH YES!!!!

And Doppelganger is also alive and it seems he's immortal har har har

Originally posted by Parmaniac
yes YES OH YES!!!!

And Doppelganger is also alive and it seems he's immortal har har har

part of me rejoices for a reprise of Maximum Carnage

part of me shudders at the 2 page splash garbage that will come from it

and ya, from what you guys talk, Venom & Carnage are going to have their hands full with Gorgon. I don't see them losing to Wolvie jr though... he is the weak link. T2, 55/100

Originally posted by inimalist
part of me rejoices for a reprise of Maximum Carnage

part of me shudders at the 2 page splash garbage that will come from it

It had weak parts and was a bit too long (which pretty much caused the weak parts) and I was completely annoyed of HOW they took down the Carnage Family (Love Rays FTW) but besides that I REALLY liked the event, a lot of cool (dark) heroes (Venom, Morbius (who was drawn amazingly imo in that event), Nightwatch, Cloak etc) and besides the killing spree it was about Spidey and Venom overcoming their diffrences and team up to defeat the greater evil, something I like in general if it happens.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
It had weak parts and was a bit too long (which pretty much caused the weak parts) and I was completely annoyed of HOW they took down the Carnage Family (Love Rays FTW) but besides that I REALLY liked the event, a lot of cool (dark) heroes (Venom, Morbius (who was drawn amazingly imo in that event), Nightwatch, Cloak etc) and besides the killing spree it was about Spidey and Venom overcoming their diffrences and team up to defeat the greater evil, something I like in general if it happens.

what issues did it run in, thats something I would love to pick up

Chapter I - Spider-Man Unlimited #1 - "Carnage Rising!"
Chapter II - Web of Spider-Man #101 - "Dark Light"
Chapter III - The Amazing Spider-Man #378 - "Demons on Broadway"
Chapter IV - Spider-Man #35 - "Team Venom"
Chapter V - Spectacular Spider-Man #201 - "Over The Line!"
Chapter VI - Web of Spider-Man #102 - "Sinking Fast"
Chapter VII - The Amazing Spider-Man #379 - "The Gathering Storm"
Chapter VIII - Spider-Man #36 - "Hate is in the Air"
Chapter IX - Spectacular Spider-Man #202 - "The Turning Point"
Chapter X - Web of Spider-Man #103 - "Sin City"
Chapter XI - The Amazing Spider-Man #380 - "Soldiers of Hope"
Chapter XII - Spider-Man #37 - "The Light!"
Chapter XIII - Spectacular Spider-Man #203 - "War of the Heart!"
Chapter XIV - Spider-Man Unlimited #2 - "The Hatred, The Horror & The Hero!"

In 1 or 2 issues the art pretty much sucks but the art of chapter 14 is one of my absolute favorites.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I thought Gorgon was super fast.
Low showing , bad writing, either or really.

Originally posted by guy222
Cletus isn't dead

but he is missing his junk, i wouldnt want to live if i were him.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Chapter I - Spider-Man Unlimited #1 - "Carnage Rising!"
Chapter II - Web of Spider-Man #101 - "Dark Light"
Chapter III - The Amazing Spider-Man #378 - "Demons on Broadway"
Chapter IV - Spider-Man #35 - "Team Venom"
Chapter V - Spectacular Spider-Man #201 - "Over The Line!"
Chapter VI - Web of Spider-Man #102 - "Sinking Fast"
Chapter VII - The Amazing Spider-Man #379 - "The Gathering Storm"
Chapter VIII - Spider-Man #36 - "Hate is in the Air"
Chapter IX - Spectacular Spider-Man #202 - "The Turning Point"
Chapter X - Web of Spider-Man #103 - "Sin City"
Chapter XI - The Amazing Spider-Man #380 - "Soldiers of Hope"
Chapter XII - Spider-Man #37 - "The Light!"
Chapter XIII - Spectacular Spider-Man #203 - "War of the Heart!"
Chapter XIV - Spider-Man Unlimited #2 - "The Hatred, The Horror & The Hero!"

In 1 or 2 issues the art pretty much sucks but the art of chapter 14 is one of my absolute favorites.

🙂

I agree about the art. That is how I will always envision venom/carnage

Team 1.

Originally posted by SamZED
Team 1.

You've got no proof stone stare is not going to work.

And they're vulnerable to pheromones and pressure points, too.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You've got no proof stone stare is not going to work.

And they're vulnerable to pheromones and pressure points, too.

Have no reason to believe it will tbh. If a thin eyelid protects from it dont see a reason why inches of symbiotic goo covering their faces wont. Pressure points wont work either, symbiotes would just absorb the impact. And using pheromones is out of Daken's CIS. He barely uses them in fights at all these days. While symbiotes got crazy durability, healing, dozens of razorsharp-faster-than-bullets tendrils and spider-man level speed and reflexes. I go with team 1.

Originally posted by guy222
Cletus isn't dead

Spoiled it for me.🙁

Originally posted by SamZED
Have no reason to believe it will tbh. If a thin eyelid protects from it dont see a reason why inches of symbiotic goo covering their faces wont. Pressure points wont work either, symbiotes would just absorb the impact. And using pheromones is out of Daken's CIS. He barely uses them in fights at all these days. While symbiotes got crazy durability, healing, dozens of razorsharp-faster-than-bullets tendrils and spider-man level speed and reflexes. I go with team 1.

Then the symbiote will be turned to stone, with the host trapped inside...

They worked before.

lulz wut? He uses them often enough.

"Spiderman lv speed and reflexes" - originally yes, now they are just a stinking goo that moves at the speed of your average brick uhuh

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Honestly, you're a bit of a fanboy. These aren't the nineties, man. Symbiotes suck.

Originally posted by SamZED
Spoiled it for me.🙁
I'm actually suprised cause it was said the issues get released each 2 months.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Then the symbiote will be turned to stone, with the host trapped inside...
Perfect strategy they're save then biscuits

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Perfect strategy they're save then biscuits

😂

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Then the symbiote will be turned to stone, with the host trapped inside...

They worked before.

lulz wut? He uses them often enough.

Well, normally takes an eye contact. Symbiotes do not really have eyes.. or more like their eyes are made of the same goo the rest of their.. erm.. bodies made off.

Pressure points? When? Maybe on Gargan but he's a loser everything that doesnt work on oldschool Venom and Carnage works on Gargan. Gargan was hurt when Namor and Spider-man ripped his toungue off and Ms Marvel managed to break the bond between him and the symbiote by pulling him hard enough.

Heck I doubt the pheromones would work. They're chemicals, right? And symbiotes were shown to be immune to chemicals, toxins etc. But I wont insist as noone ever tried that on Brock before. Just saying that things that worked on Gargan might not work on the real Venom.

When was the last time he used them in a fihgt? Against Spider-man? He uses them like once out of 15 times he fights.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

"Spiderman lv speed and reflexes" - originally yes, now they are just a stinking goo that moves at the speed of your average brick uhuh

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Honestly, you're a bit of a fanboy. These aren't the nineties, man. Symbiotes suck.


You made a mortal enemy today, sir. uhuh

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I'm actually suprised cause it was said the issues get released each 2 months.
Would be cool to see Cassidy as Carnage again.

Pretty sure he will, amped of course cause of the bionic legs.

How does it taste Stilt? One of Spideys villains gets another amp biscuits want some salt with that?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Pretty sure he will, amped of course cause of the bionic legs.

How does it taste Stilt? One of Spideys villains gets another amp biscuits want some salt with that?

Here's the salt. Wolverine and Spider-man are already good buddies. Logan speaks highly of Parker and by the end of AS&W they're probably gonna be best firends. 😈

Originally posted by SamZED
Well, normally takes an eye contact. Symbiotes do not really have eyes.. or more like their eyes are made of the same goo the rest of their.. erm.. bodies made off.

Pressure points? When? Maybe on Gargan but he's a loser everything that doesnt work on oldschool Venom and Carnage works on Gargan. Gargan was hurt when Namor and Spider-man ripped his toungue off and Ms Marvel managed to break the bond between him and the symbiote by pulling him hard enough.

Heck I doubt the pheromones would work. They're chemicals, right? And symbiotes were shown to be immune to chemicals, toxins etc. But I wont insist as noone ever tried that on Brock before. Just saying that things that worked on Gargan might not work on the real Venom.

When was the last time he used them in a fihgt? Against Spider-man? He uses them like once out of 15 times he fights.

You made a mortal enemy today, sir. uhuh

Would be cool to see Cassidy as Carnage again.

Leviathan monsters were affected by it. Just saying.

Daken/Gargan and Daredevil/Venom instances.

They did and you can't just make an imaginary immunity now. Nate was kinda impressed by Daken's pheromones.

I think he used them against the FF recently. You need to exclude the instances written by writers that have no clue about his powerset and when he loses a fight on purpose. Also, you need to consider that it doesn't need to stated on panel every single time he uses them.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Pretty sure he will, amped of course cause of the bionic legs.

How does it taste Stilt? One of Spideys villains gets another amp biscuits want some salt with that?

Adamantiumless Wolverine went toe to toe with him, so it seems only fair he gets these bionic legs now... 😛