Thanos VS The Spectre

Started by quanchi11215 pages

Originally posted by 753
the PS has the presence's backing, thanos only has death
Since when has the Spectre been backed by the presence.

Failing to kill the Phantom Stranger isn't a low showing for the Spectre.

The Presence wouldn't allow the PS to be destroyed, even though apparently He wasn't paying attention to DOV (until Nabu died and He was moved to intervene) he still passively protected the Phantom Stranger.

Besides, comparing the Phantom Stranger to the Cancerverse beings is inherently flawed as per Blackest Night where it was revealed that the Phantom Stranger is completely divorced from concepts like life and death: he's a Stranger to them.

Personally I'd like to see what his relationship is (if any) to Death of the Endless.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Failing to kill the Phantom Stranger isn't a low showing for the Spectre.

The Presence wouldn't allow the PS to be destroyed, even though apparently He wasn't paying attention to DOV (until Nabu died and He was moved to intervene) he still passively protected the Phantom Stranger.

Besides, comparing the Phantom Stranger to the Cancerverse beings is inherently flawed as per Blackest Night where it was revealed that the Phantom Stranger is completely divorced from concepts like life and death: he's a Stranger to them.

Personally I'd like to see what his relationship is (if any) to Death of the Endless.

It isn't a high showing either. The presence wasn't even involved until Nabu died so don't act like he protected Ps. No, the Spectre just didn't have the power to do so.

Just saying Thanos can kill those unkillable whereas the Spectre has even admitted he probably couldn't at that point in time.

Are you saying no one can kill the Ps ?

The Phantom Stranger has a continuing long-term protection on the Presence, the Presence doesn't have to be directly involved in order for him to be protected.

There's varying levels of unkillability, and PS is very high up among them.

Originally posted by Q99
The Phantom Stranger has a continuing long-term protection on the Presence, the Presence doesn't have to be directly involved in order for him to be protected.

There's varying levels of unkillability, and PS is very high up among them.

Have a scan directly stating this. Wouldn't the Spectre also know this since he's you know wrath ? He seemed to think he could eventually kill Ps not that it was impossible.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Are you saying no one can kill the Ps ?
thats what I got from it yes

Originally posted by 753
thats what I got from it yes
I don't get that at all. I just think he's hard to kill is all.

The Phantom Stranger can't be killed this is spelled out quite clearly all the time. Hes not like Thanos or Deadpool who just don't happen to die because of one entity's deal with them.

PS is a multiversal entity that is literally immune to the concepts like life or death he doesn't know them because they can't effect him anyway. I could post scans of this but I'm sure you would just try and equate it to something Thanos has done just because it best suits your argument.

Even if Thanos is as unkillabe as the PS, turning him into a mouse still counts as a win

Originally posted by 753
his own immortality wasnt what made him able to deliver permanenet death to the immortal. death banned him from her realms, which made him immortal, she also gave him the power to kill the immortal (even in a universe without death) as he is her avatar. he has shown this power on panel. presumably, his attacks carry Death's touch, as it were.

of course, the spectre, if backed by the presence, outranks thanos since the presence outranks death, so it wont work on him and thanos wouldnt have the raw power to drop him to begin with

So has he only shown this ability in the cancerverse?

Quan: You'd have to prove that PS was killable by Thanos. No ABC logic pls.

Originally posted by 753
thats what I got from it yes

Unless the Presence changes His mind I doubt anyone or thing can kill him.

MAYBE WF Mxy or someone like that, but that's still a big maybe.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Even if Thanos is as unkillabe as the PS, turning him into a mouse still counts as a win

True dat.

Besides, assuming a neutral setting Spectre wouldn't have to send him to Mistress Death's realm, just send him to Hell.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So has he only shown this ability in the cancerverse?

Quan: You'd have to prove that PS was killable by Thanos. No ABC logic pls.

How can I prove this when they are from different companies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How can I prove this when they are from different companies.

By showing a feat of him killing someone on PS' level. How else would you argue that Thanos could kill him?

Originally posted by -Pr-
By showing a feat of him killing someone on PS' level. How else would you argue that Thanos could kill him?
You said no abc logic.

I also see the Maker as proof. I think she is more powerful than Ps was.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Have a scan directly stating this. Wouldn't the Spectre also know this since he's you know wrath ? He seemed to think he could eventually kill Ps not that it was impossible.

He was hoping that messing with the laws of magic enough/eliminating magic would eventually leave him killable.

Originally posted by Q99
He was hoping that messing with the laws of magic enough/eliminating magic would eventually leave him killable.
When did it state this on panel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said no abc logic.

I also see the Maker as proof. I think she is more powerful than Ps was.

There's a difference between ABC logic and deduction.

Why?

Originally posted by -Pr-
There's a difference between ABC logic and deduction.

Why?

Infinite power and a reality warper.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Infinite power and a reality warper.

Then how did he kill her?

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did it state this on panel.

Right when they clash in DoV.

Stranger: "Universe wouldn't allow it blah blah blah,"
Spectre: "Blah blah, that's true now, but with magic gone... blah blah blah."

Roughly.