Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
My answer suits both questions. Their psychic link allows them to communicate with each other during the battle.
I still don't see what huge tactical advantage it gives them. It could actually be a disadvantage, as It also opens them up to feeling the pain of each of their pack as the Predator knocks them off.
Predator would be an idiot to go to ground against more than one(maybe two) of them, considering their speed and strength.
Predator 1 showed a fondness for hiding, stalking and killing from trees. Considering that, he picks them off slowly.
If the wolf-boys transform and try to climb after him, he still has the initial advantage of height and ranged weapons.
Originally posted by RobtardYou remember how slow the plasma beams travel? Hell, the Pred couldn't even nail Dutch, and he's human.
Didn't say that, said he picks them off. Blast one from above, changes location.Though they'd probably just bail after two of them gets killed.
Twiwolves run as fast as Twivamps, there's literally no way in hell the Pred nails even one of them with his plasma cannon.
And no, the Twiwolves aren't cowards, they won't bail.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You remember how slow the plasma beams travel? Hell, the Pred couldn't even nail Dutch, and he's human.Twiwolves run as fast as Twivamps, there's literally no way in hell the Pred nails even one of them with his plasma cannon.
And no, the Twiwolves aren't cowards, they won't bail.
Element of surprise should allow him to tag two. Unless you propose the wolves are going to be in a constant state of running through the trees while looking up for that glow of light? No.
I've seen the fight scenes in both films, when they fight, it's nothing too spectacular speed-wise. At least from the wolves.
Then it's just a matter of time before he kills them all, considering he's not stupid enough to charge giant supernatural wolves, when he wasn't stupid enough to charge a small group of armed men and the wolves have no way of attacking him
Originally posted by Robtard
Element of surprise should allow him to tag two. Unless you propose the wolves are going to be in a constant state of running through the trees while looking up for that glow of light? No.I've seen the fight scenes in both films, when they fight, it's nothing too spectacular speed-wise. At least from the wolves.
Then it's just a matter of time before he kills them all, considering he's not stupid enough to charge giant supernatural wolves, when he wasn't stupid enough to charge a small group of armed men and the wolves have no way of attacking him
Element of surprise? You do realize the Twiwolves will smell him from a mile away, right? And that their enhanced senses (vision and hearing) will prevent the Pred from sneaking up on him, right? This, along with the psychic link the Twiwolves share, and the Pred has zero chance of sneaking up on them.
The Twiwolves greatest weapon here is their speed. One of them WILL get to him. That's all it takes. They rip apart granitevamps, dude.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Element of surprise? You do realize the Twiwolves will smell him from a mile away, right? And that their enhanced senses (vision and hearing) will prevent the Pred from sneaking up on him, right? This, along with the psychic link the Twiwolves share, and the Pred has zero chance of sneaking up on them.The Twiwolves greatest weapon here is their speed. One of them WILL get to him. That's all it takes. They rip apart granitevamps, dude.
The cloaking, so while they'll know he's in the general area, they're likely not seeing him until he rains death upon them.
Wolves would need to get to him first to do that ripping-apart move; wolves can't climb trees, can they?
True, cloak has still shown to be effective.
Yay, pretty slow compared to bullets. Haven't seen a single wolf fighting scene that showed them having this super-speed. Running in a straight line, sure.
Good thing there's a ****ing forest then, also, while the wolves are eating up bark, they're open to attack.
Wolves get picked off one at a time while trying to get to their target, basically back where we started. Maybe if you gave the wolves a ranged attack, like a fikken lazer-beam on top of their heads.
Originally posted by Robtard
True, cloak has still shown to be effective.Yay, pretty slow compared to bullets. Haven't seen a single wolf fighting scene that showed them having this super-speed. Running in a straight line, sure.
Good thing there's a ****ing forest then, also, while the wolves are eating up bark, they're open to attack.
Wolves get picked off one at a time while trying to get to their target, basically back where we started.
The cloak aint cuttin' it here, dude. Humans saw it, the Twiwolves will see it.
Running in a straight line, moving side to side, just as fast in every direction.
Listen to me, dude. The Twiwolves are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too fast to be hit by the plasma beams. Stop praising the plasma beams.
The Twiwolves will be but a blur to the Pred. If he takes aim on one, another will blitz him and rip him in two.
Despite the cloaking having had worked before. Ridiculous to assume it's going to fail from the very start, after a kill or two, sure, they'll be aware what to look for. While they somehow run through the trees; at blurring speeds and while looking up. Okay.
Got a clip to prove it? Because as I recall the fight-clips that were posted in here before, wolves aren't at blur-speeds.
Again, can the wolves climb? If they can't, they're not "blitzing" his ass in the trees.
Originally posted by Robtard
Despite the cloaking having had worked before. Ridiculous to assume it's going to fail from the very start, after a kill or two, sure, they'll be aware what to look for. While they somehow run through the trees; at blurring speeds and while looking up. Okay.Got a clip to prove it? Because as I recall the fight-clips that were posted in here before, wolves aren't at blur-speeds.
Again, can the wolves climb? If they can't, they're not "blitzing" his ass in the trees.
The Twiwolves heightened senses will let them know where the Pred is at all times. Why is this so hard to understand? If the Pred fires his plasma weapon, he's ****ed. Why? It's like sending up a flare. "Here I am!!!!" A Twiwolf will see it, then via the psychic connection, tell the other Twiwolves where the Pred is. And no, the Pred cannot outrun the Twiwolves. Once they know where he is, he's done.
A clip? They chase down Twivamps dude, that's all the proof you need.
The Pred is hunting the Wolves. HE is after THEM. Yes, the pack is out to kill him, but the Pred will have to go to ground. If he tries to plasma beam them from the trees, they'll dodge, quite easily too. They'll bide their time. They'll wait for him to go to ground and then rip them apart. Unless you think the pack is stupid enough to bark like wild dogs at the base of the tree the Pred is in.
Twiwolves: Way too fast for the plasma weapon. Far stronger. Far better senses. Just better in every way.
Considering he's aware what they can do and he's outnumbered 7 to 1, he'd have to be an imbecile to give up the advantage of ranged attack. So you making him go to ground isn't in character . He didn't charge a group of S.F. guys, he wouldn't charge a group of super-wolves with supposedly "blurring-speed" who can kill him it a bite or two.
I'm asking you to show a clip that proves otherwise, the fight clips I've seen, they move no faster than a wolf, give or take. But yes, if he was trying to catch them or run away, they'd easily run away or run him down.
Best case scenario for the wolves here is a tie. They trap his ass in a tree, cutting off escape, Predator does what a Predator does in a losing fight, fool goes nuclear and they all die. Hopefully the blast reaching Bella's house too.
OK then, while he blasts away with his plasma weapon from the treetops, missing miserably every time, what's he to do then?
How fast are Twivamps? Because you know, the Pack can go toe to toe with them while fighting and running. Food for thought. You don't need a clip, just common sense. Lookie:
Look at how fast the Twivamps are, Victoria in particular. At the end of the vid, Emmett jumps after her and is intercepted by Paul. Victoria takes off and the wolves give chase. They are gaining on her slowly, and they are more agile/nimble than she is. That gives you an idea of how fast the pack is.
And here:
The Twivamps in action, fighting. The pack can go toe to toe with them, dude, that means they are at least as quick as the Twivamps. If they weren't, why is Victoria always running from them? If Victoria could easily dispatch them one at a time, if she was faster/quicker than they are, why not stand her ground and fight? Because the pack is every bit as fast/agile/quick as a twivamp is.
Originally posted by RobtardMac saw it far in advance. He was hiding and watching it. Out of shape black man with normal human powers sees it, then the Twiwolves see it even easier with their enhanced senses.
They did see the Predator while it was cloaked, about a second before it killed them, no?Though I think Mac saw the dots 1st and the Predator was savorying the moment, could have blasted him long before.