Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Element of surprise? You do realize the Twiwolves will smell him from a mile away, right? And that their enhanced senses (vision and hearing) will prevent the Pred from sneaking up on him, right? This, along with the psychic link the Twiwolves share, and the Pred has zero chance of sneaking up on them.The Twiwolves greatest weapon here is their speed. One of them WILL get to him. That's all it takes. They rip apart granitevamps, dude.
Yeah, this.
I don't see how anything can sneak up on the wolves unless that something is abusrdly fast or can null their senses.
The werewolves freaking tracked vamps from miles and miles away. The Pred could think about approaching them but would be sniffed out in a heartbeat.
I personally think the superhuman "human" forms of the werewolves could put up a good fight against the Pred. They still have heightened senses (just not as sharp in human form) and definitely well above superhuman in strength and durability. If I remember, in like book 3, Jacob could run as fast as cars on the highway in human form.
How is the pred going to tag even their human forms, much less their even better wolf forms?
Just seems a little far-fetched to think the predator, which had problems with humans with far inferior senses, could do anything to the wolves.
I would put Edward against Jacob and see Edward easily winning. 🙂
I would put a newborn against the pred and see the pred taking out a few, though, despite newborns being much stronger than the werewolves and having similar senses.
Originally posted by Placidity
Here's my take on Twilight Vamp vs Wolf speeds.In the novels, it is stated that Wolves can easily match a Vampire's speeds.
Now in the first film, a Vampire's level of speed was set into the ground, as so fast they appeared as a blur.
When it was time to introduce the Werewolves, how could they depict that they were on par in terms of speed? They could either have the Wolves running at blurring speeds as well, which I dunno, maybe wouldn't have worked out as nice visually - OR they could have the Vampires run slower (when both were in the same scenes) so both species appear to have similar speeds. Thats my theory on it anyway.
But its hard to argue this because on-screen the Vamps have displayed superior speed when by themselves. If you accept my theory, which I think has merit, then it gets real messy to debate since there are no feats or references to show how fast a Wolf really is. So the alternative treatment to this is to say the speed shown by the Wolves on-screen is as fast as they can be, but the Vamps being slower is due to PIS (since they've shown to be much faster).
As for the matchup, I still think the pack wins. Theres some scripting going on, with the Predator being really conservative, whereas I think while Predators do use their stealth, also have a come-get-some-I'll-kick-all-your-asses, more aggressive attitude.
Good take.
I still think the movies didn't come close to capturing the vampire speed...but the fight between Felix and Edward came close.
When the vampires were sparring in book 3, to show the wolves what to look for, Bella said it was a blur of vamps and she couldn't tell what was going on, at all. She also describes looking one way and then looking the othe and Edward would seemingly teleport from one side to the other (such as getting into the Truck.) That's fairly instant and faster than what we see in the movies.
I also think the movies made things much too ... well.... g*y...and overly dramatic. The book is overly-dramatic, but they could have toned it down for the films, imo.