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I think if people want to cry our retcon or powerup....
I seem to remember annihilus besting Thor and baldur and fighting his way to Odin...
Blastaar before saying he would serve annihilus in exchange for the bugs help...
Annihilus was killed... And a "clone" or child or his with all his memories was born and later it fought a second child... I think that was the last appearance before annihilation... Offhand that "rebirth" can explain a powerup... But throughout history he hasn't been a weakling...
Also annihilus defeated quasar due to the energies being different... Well quasar is like posit and annihilus is like negative... From the negative zone... Rhys the way I imagine why it was such a rare occurrence... The last time offhand I remember that happening was against one of oblivions minions ...
To quasar I mean....
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
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powerfull no doubt but still it's only energy blasts.
nothing stormbreaker cannot deflect/absorb
Originally posted by Warlord
powerfull no doubt but still it's only energy blasts.
nothing stormbreaker cannot deflect/absorb
He can also manipulate matter, and amp his strength to an unknown extent. For instance the Marvel handbook categorized his base strength levels at topping out at roughly 70 tons, if I remember correctly, yet he threw the Thing around like a rag doll when he faced him and Ben is a class 85. If Bill were to somehow remove the CCR he would likely win, but this is doubtful at best. If they locked up WWE style, Bill would likely be blasted into a coma, or worse by the CCR.
Annihilus 8/10
Originally posted by the Darkone
BRB in both, Q bands have no effect on magic, if this the same BRB we saw in Stormbreaker mini Annihilus is f**ked big time, Annihilus will fall under stormbreaker blows alone. Annihilus is a basda$$ but even he has a breaking point.
Only we haven't seen this breaking point yet. He's damage soak is sick.
Originally posted by the DarkoneWhich is likely beyond BRB. He already walked through thor, ate quasar and swated nova down. He was only defeated by nova later on because his own power reserves were depleted by Galactus's blast.
BRB in both, Q bands have no effect on magic, if this the same BRB we saw in Stormbreaker mini Annihilus is f**ked big time, Annihilus will fall under stormbreaker blows alone. Annihilus is a basda$$ but even he has a breaking point.
Originally posted by 753
Which is likely beyond BRB. He already walked through thor, ate quasar and swated nova down. He was only defeated by nova later on because his own power reserves were depleted by Galactus's blast.
Once he lost Q bands he was f**ked and Nova ripped his heart out, no doubt he held his own against Thor who always holds back, BRB wont be holding back in Stormbreaker was proof of that.
Originally posted by the DarkoneActually, defending himself from Galactu's blast exhasted both the QBands and his own power reserves leaving him at Nova's mercy. There is no doubt he was a great deal above Nova as he crushed him efortlessly along with quasar and was going to eat the nova force as well, if it wasn't for worldmind using a trojan horse to infect his fleet.
Once he lost Q bands he was f**ked and Nova ripped his heart out, no doubt he held his own against Thor who always holds back, BRB wont be holding back in Stormbreaker was proof of that.
People need to cut this Thor holds back sorry excuse. He lost, that's it. BRB would lose too.
Originally posted by Johnny SorrowOh he mentions holding back does he? I guess we're supposed to ignore everything that happens in his comics every time he loses then. If you can find proof that he was specifically holding back against annihilus and that's why he lost, then you'll have an argument. Otherwise we're at "If Superman wants to do something, he can do it, cause he's always holding back" levels of bullshit.
Especially the [B]dozens of times he mentions it on-panel. [/B]
^ You have a fair argument. From my reading, Thor holding back is mostly situational. He doesn't hold back against gods for instance. That's almost across the board. He almost always holds back against humans. Often times, he holds back against new foes he's never met before.
Annihilus? Probably not. But while Thor got KTFO, Thor seemed to have the upperhand against Annihilus right before Odin returned:
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
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