Cross Genre Match #16: Wrath vs X-23

does wrath not have a healing factor? i was thought all of the homunculi did?

anyways, the biggest problem for wrath would be that his blades < adamantium and if he doesnt have a healing factor hes going to take hits after a while

anyways, whats wraths stamina like? x could potentially just tire him out

Laura doesn't have the skills and speed Wolverine has, her feats are just inferior in everyway. She's a beast and a regenerator, she can potentially try to tire Wrath but she would need to stand losing legs and hands several times for that to work or try to cut through Wrath's swords/knives before he notices how hard Adamantium really is.

would his eye potentially tell him that?

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
does wrath not have a healing factor? i was thought all of the homunculi did?

He's a different type of homunculi, a human turned into one. Wrath only has one life and can't rapidly regen limbs and stuff like the others.

Bentley
Laura doesn't have the skills and speed Wolverine has, her feats are just inferior in everyway.

She doesn't look inferior when they compete side by side or head to head.

Originally posted by Q99
He's a different type of homunculi, a human turned into one. Wrath only has one life and can't rapidly regen limbs and stuff like the others.

Originally posted by Q99
He's a different type of homunculi, a human turned into one. Wrath only has one life and can't rapidly regen limbs and stuff like the others.

She doesn't look inferior when they compete side by side or head to head.

She wouldn't be the first character Logan would utterly stomp in a Vs forum that can give him a fight in a comic.

Originally posted by Bentley
She wouldn't be the first character Logan would utterly stomp in a Vs forum that can give him a fight in a comic.

She is literally his clone trained by mimicing his movements inside a hologram.

I don't see why she'd be slower. He's just had more time to accumulate feats, but among her feats is explicitly 'matches up well against Wolverine and does well against him when he's being serious.'

"I don't see why she would be slower" kind of falls short to prove Laura is as fast as him. She's competent and powerful, and in this fight she's not the underdog but she shouldn't be compared with Logan until she's portrayed consistently as he is.

Originally posted by Bentley
"I don't see why she would be slower" kind of falls short to prove Laura is as fast as him. She's competent and powerful, and in this fight she's not the underdog but she shouldn't be compared with Logan until she's portrayed consistently as he is.

Except, she has. When she fought him, and the hologram-mimic training.

She hasn't been portrayed as any slower, she simply has fewer appearances.

I'm not sure how having fewer feats is an argument for her being slower when they don't show her any slower.

The issue is, Logan is more experienced and he's as fast while having the whole skeleton laced with adamantium, meaning that would be vastly faster than X-23 without it, hence Laura should be considered a different character and not assumed like Logan, Wolverine is just better than her.

Seeing as she is his clone with the same physical stats and doesn't have to carry around an adamantium skeleton... she should realistically be faster. If we are to go by feats, she beat the training simulation Wolverine partook in quicker than he did when she was around 11.

She hasn't been around as long as he has and doesn't get the spotlight treatment, so of course her feats aren't quite as obscene on the high end as his are.

In any case, she has shown to have a healing factor at precisely his level, the speed to and fighting skill to bleed Logan out, the guts to take nearly fatal blows on purpose to pwn Deathstrike, etc.

Wrath shitstomped a vastly better regenerator. He can deal with the healing can she deal with a faster and more experienced fighter with superhuman level stats?

Originally posted by Konton
Seeing as she is his clone with the same physical stats and doesn't have to carry around an adamantium skeleton... she should realistically be faster.

You're coming exactly with the wrong conclusion given evidence: She hasn't been shown to be faster despite lacking of adamantium hence she is slower.

Originally posted by Bentley
You're coming exactly with the wrong conclusion given evidence: She hasn't been shown to be faster despite lacking of adamantium hence she is slower.

She's not slower than Logan w/ adamantium. It's even possible she might be a little faster, though admittedly that hasn't been demonstrated (IMO she is more agile admittedly, just the way she fights is more acrobatic).

I think the 'she's slower' thing is a reach.

Ok fine, I'll phrase it differently, she may not be slower, she is most definitively not faster (from what we've seen).

I would phrase it as she may not be faster, she is most definitely not slower.

You have to be the same speed as someone to literally copy a recording of their movements exactly.

Originally posted by Q99
I would phrase it as she may not be faster, she is most definitely not slower.

You have to be the same speed as someone to literally copy a recording of their movements exactly.

Yet that someone carries more weight than you do while doing it and it has proved time and time again he can do more impressive stuff than you've ever done.

Originally posted by Bentley
Yet that someone carries more weight than you do while doing it and it has proved time and time again he can do more impressive stuff than you've ever done.

You're taking absence of evidence as evidence of absence.

Of course she hasn't done as much high-end stuff, she's only been around for a few years and generally just one book at a time. What stuff she's done does not indicate a lower speed level though (and rather explicitly indicates at minimum even speed), and if you want to prove lower speed, that's what you need.

Wolverine does have stuff going for him other than speed- He's stronger, and of course has the adamantium, plus his fighting style is different, but in terms of speed? I think it's fairly definitive what info we have.

My main point remains, saying that she is a clone and doesn't have adamantium so she must be faster cannot be backed by showings and is pure speculation.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Wrath shitstomped a vastly better regenerator. He can deal with the healing can she deal with a faster and more experienced fighter with superhuman level stats?