Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Wolverine, he to my knowledge has used far more firer arms. Captain America form day one has been using his shield mostly. This was not the case with Wolverine who for greta parts of his life had no idea he had claws and was using firer arms to get his task's accomplished.
Rogers has told Punisher in their first encounter that he's used firearms a lot in WWII. Just saying.
Originally posted by Starscream M
umm...aiming a shield means cap has ridiculous aiming ability and trajectory calculation abilitywas that too difficult for you to grasp? 🙄
They dont go hand and hand moron.
not to mention wolverine ahd people believeing he was Captain America, by using a dam trash can lid.
I hate to say it, but I actually agree with Starscream.
Cap's knowledge of trajectory is very advanced. His shield tossing ability was a skill he learned in his training. That would translate very well to firearms. His aim is so attuned he can get the same effects with a discus toss that others would with a firearm, so he doesn't need a gun. The aim is there though.
Still hate to say it.
Originally posted by illadelph12
I hate to say it, but I actually agree with Starscream.Cap's knowledge of trajectory is very advanced. His shield tossing ability was a skill he learned in his training. That would translate very well to firearms. His aim is so attuned he can get the same effects with a discus toss that others would with a firearm, so he doesn't need a gun. The aim is there though.
Still hate to say it.
again there not the same thing. Throwing and object and shooting a gun have a completely different feel. The best knife thrower in the world, picked up a gun he ben shit with it. They don't translate over. There two completely different tasks, the only similarity would be timing, but even then it be much different. Throwing object has much different feel then shooting a gun. Go try it your self.
Uisng your logic a baseball pitcher would be an expert with firearms. see what I am getting at?
Originally posted by Starscream M
umm...aiming a shield means cap has ridiculous aiming ability and trajectory calculation abilitywas that too difficult for you to grasp? 🙄
So does Wolverine. He made HYDRA agents think he's Cap and all he had was a trash can lid... which obviously doesn't have the properties of Cap's shield.
They both have some ridiculous accuracy feats. Steve opening and closing a lighter with his shield throw, Wolverine taking out a plane with a sword throw / a chopper with a wretch...
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
not to mention wolverine ahd people believeing he was Captain America, by using a dam trash can lid.
You beat me to it.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWThey are idiots tho
So does Wolverine. He made HYDRA agents think he's Cap and all he had was a trash can lid... which obviously doesn't have the properties of Cap's shield.They both have some ridiculous accuracy feats. Steve opening and closing a lighter with his shield throw, Wolverine taking out a plane with a sword throw / a chopper with a wretch...
You beat me to it.
People just becuase you are good at throwing a shield, knife ect does not make you better with a Gun. It like trying to argue a major league pitcher being expert with firer arms, because he so accurate with his pitches. It absurd. All it help you do is timing, the whole feel and motion, is much different froma gun, The way you aim is much different as well.
Also wolverine expert with throwing knifes, but that means shit here. It who better with a gun.
I see what your getting at Dum Dum, however, paralleling Cap's specialized aim and training to a real life knife thrower or a pitcher is a horrible comparison. Nolan Ryan isn't going to know the right speed and trajectory to throw a fast ball against a wall, have it ricochet off multiple surfaces, hit 7 people in the forehead (knocking each unconscious), and then have the ball return to the palm of his hand. Cap's aim is more comparable to one of his comic contemporaries like Bullseye or Cyclops. The aim and trajectory ability is a honed skill. Using a real world example of someone tossing an object is more than a bit misleading, to say the least.
Originally posted by Starscream M
umm...aiming a shield means cap has ridiculous aiming ability and trajectory calculation abilitywas that too difficult for you to grasp? 🙄
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganBoth of you need to stop.
throwing a shield and shotting a gun are not the same. I am a good knife throwing, but I am shit with a gun.They dont go hand and hand moron.
not to mention wolverine ahd people believeing he was Captain America, by using a dam trash can lid.
Originally posted by illadelph12
I see what your getting at Dum Dum, however, paralleling Cap's specialized aim and training to a real life knife thrower or a pitcher is a horrible comparison. Nolan Ryan isn't going to know the right speed and trajectory to throw a fast ball against a wall, have it ricochet off multiple surfaces, hit 7 people in the forehead (knocking each unconscious), and then have the ball return to the palm of his hand. Cap's aim is more comparable to one of his comic contemporaries like Bullseye or Cyclops. The aim and trajectory ability is a honed skill. Using a real world example of someone tossing an object is more than a bit misleading, to say the least.
comparable arguement to what your making from real world stand point, would be that a kid who can bounces pingpong ball off several walls, out a window into a cup if he picked up a gun would have expert aim. See what I am getting at? There two different skill, sets and there not comparable.