Originally posted by -Pr-
Tbh, it's actually all related imo, when you consider that hand-eye-coordination plays such a huge part in each of the fields...
However again as I stated a base ball play, ping pong bouncer, knife thrower, may have natural dexterity which gives them an edge over average individual, but that far cry from making them an expert with firer arms. It still a learned skill. Throwing a shield is not the same skill set as firering a gun, there completely two different skills.
Originally posted by psycho gundam^ he's the monkey wrench in that theory
Bullseye and Captain America are no way sahpe and form camaprable.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
only cause cap has a stance on killing n shit, the avengers aren't supposed to do that stuff. i remember him killing baron blood but that guy was a vampire. but WWII, different story.pretty sure he knows how to use a gun being in the army and all, his personal choice to use them notwithstanding
Wolverine has in fact more occurances of using guns, he actually used them frequently as main weapons during his time in the war. Captain America though used them from time to time, his main weapon was always his shield. Wolverine has vastly more experiences with firer arms, and were his primary weapon through much of the wars he was in, as well as when he was on team x.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
It play such a small part. All it mean is your physical prowesses. Ones actaul skill would be learned. Sure they naturally be much more gift then any normal person, however just becuase you can bounces a shield around does not make you expert with firer arms, and certainly not better then inviidual who potrayed greta aim with firer arms and been stated number of times as being an expert with them.However again as I stated a base ball play, ping pong bouncer, knife thrower, may have natural dexterity which gives them an edge over average individual, but that far cry from making them an expert with firer arms. It still a learned skill. Throwing a shield is not the same skill set as firering a gun, there completely two different skills.
You're taking what other people said out of context. Plus, it's a lot more than a small part imo.
Originally posted by -Pr-
You're taking what other people said out of context. Plus, it's a lot more than a small part imo.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
People just becuase you are good at throwing a shield, knife ect does not make you better with a Gun. It like trying to argue a major league pitcher being expert with firer arms, because he so accurate with his pitches. It absurd. All it help you do is timing, the whole feel and motion, is much different froma gun, The way you aim is much different as well.Also wolverine expert with throwing knifes, but that means shit here. It who better with a gun.
I think the point they are making is that eventhough they are different shield throwing would still help and give him an edge. Dancing is different from martial arts but being a good dancer could give you an edge.
It does go together. Of course he would have to build skill in firearms as well (which he has anyways). It would still go over. Your sense of trajectory and geometric location doesn't go away because you have a gun in your hand. Cyclops, Bullseye, and Cap all have supernatural judgment of distance and space. Yes he would need a feel for a gun but he has that anyways.
It's like changing fighting styles. It wouldn't go over completely but it would help a lot if an experienced martial artist started another style and used both.
Cap is so accurate with firearms, he can have people shoot him and maneuver the bullet ricochets where he wants perfectly. Happened in New Avengers.
I mean, seriously, he doesn't even need to directly pull the trigger. He can have someone shoot him and make it ricochet where he wants it to.
This is really no contest.
^ DD would be better with a gun. Radar sense and all.
I've never seen Wolverine deflect a bullet fired at him several times into his target. Marksmanship requires a steady arm, good eyesight, control, appreciation of bullet speed, trajectory and other tangibles like wind resistance, anticipation of your target moving, etc.
Needless to say, hiting a target is easier than hitting a moving target is easier than hitting a target with a ricochet shot is easier than hitting a target with a ricochet shot that you didn't even fire.
If you disagree, that's your prerogative. For the life of me, I have no idea why.