Ra's al Ghul w/ Muramasa Sword vs Wolverine

Started by Dum Dum Dugan6 pages
Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Lunacyde
You constantly ask for proof on every little facet of the battle even those that you deem to not matter anyways. You hound people all the time, even on points that you yourself have claimed as not mattering. Not all of us have endless libraries of comics scanned to computers.

Because people need to prove there points, not state a bunch of rubbish. Most of the time i ask for evidence is because I believe the person is lieing or taking the event out of context.

If you are unable to get a scan, or get the issue number and title of the feat in question then you really should not be posting such statements as fact. Because clearly your knowledge on the subject is outdated or memory of the event is quite vague, so clearly what your saying is not a fact. It your opinion based off vague memories or complete BS. (this is all generalized, I not talking about you in particular).

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Because people need to prove there points, not state a bunch of rubbish. Most of the time i ask for evidence is because I believe the person is lieing or taking the event out of context.

If you are unable to get a scan, or get the issue number and title of the feat in question then you really should not be posting such statements as fact. Because clearly your knowledge on the subject is outdated or memory of the event is quite vague, so clearly what your saying is not a fact. It your opinion based off vague memories or complete BS. (this is all generalized, I not talking about you in particular).

you're a damn hypocrite. I rarely see you offer any proof yourself!

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Starscream M
you're a damn hypocrite. I rarely see you offer any proof yourself!

I have provided losts of evidences, many many times, hell i did so yesterday in fact. I always provide evidence when it asked for despite perhaps a few exception. Most of which involve me already several times providing the same individual evidences only to have them magically forget it for the 5th time.

as always you fail at your lame attempts to discredit me.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I have provided losts of evidences, many many times, hell i did so yesterday in fact. I always provide evidence when it asked for despite perhaps a few exception. Most of which involve me already several times providing the same individual evidences only to have them magically forget it for the 5th time.

as always you fail at your lame attempts to discredit me.

yes, i've often seen you post completely irrelevant scans that supposedly support your argument 🙄

I will demand support from you in future debates

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Starscream M
yes, i've often seen you post completely irrelevant scans that supposedly support your argument 🙄

I will demand support from you in future debates


as always your lame attempt to discredit me fail.

and perhaps I provide it, but I feel this could be unlikely, since you tend to ask for evidence ive already shown you like 10 times such as evidence for why wolverine a class 2, wolverine dodging bullets ect. You also never provide evidence yourself, why should it allways be so one sided? I shown you untolds amount of evidences, while you have provided next to nothing, just keep on spewing your ignorances regardless.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

This thread be funnier to debate if it was a sword fight, with claws is simply over kill.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
This thread be funnier to debate if it was a sword fight, with claws is simply over kill.
how is it overkill? its the muramasa blade!

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
as always your lame attempt to discredit me fail.

and perhaps I provide it, but I feel this could be unlikely, since you tend to ask for evidence ive already shown you like 10 times such as evidence for why wolverine a class 2, wolverine dodging bullets ect. You also never provide evidence yourself, why should it allways be so one sided? I shown you untolds amount of evidences, while you have provided next to nothing, just keep on spewing your ignorances regardless.

you actually never proved logan a class 2

showing a few nebulous feats (tossing a shark, a garbage can, holding an elevator, and hitting someone underwater) does not prove logan is class 2

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Starscream M
you actually never proved logan a class 2

showing a few nebulous feats (tossing a shark, a garbage can, holding an elevator, and hitting someone underwater) does not prove logan is class 2


actaully they do. Throwing a shark that weights roughly 1,100 pounds in water over your head, into a boat would easy require more then two ton strength. Throw a dumpster with which weights roughly 1,600 pounds with one arm several feat, would also regure at least class 2 strength, as would holding the elevator. Oh and also when wolverine was made to weight several tons and floor gave out before wolverine, which also requires more then 2 tons strength. Oh and then we have wolverine climbing a dam mountain with a gran paino on his back.....another feat that would require more then class 2 strength.

Your just to dim witted to realize it.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Starscream M
how is it overkill? its the muramasa blade!

becuase wolverine superior to him every way physically and is significantly more skill. Hell wolverine even more skilled then Ra's with swords and that Ra's thing, let a lone with his claws.

Ra's having the sword means nothing what he going to get completely out fought on all levels.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
becuase wolverine superior to him every way physically and is significantly more skill. Hell wolverine even more skilled then Ra's with swords and that Ra's thing, let a lone with his claws.

Ra's having the sword means nothing what he going to get completely out fought on all levels.

ra's one of the greatest swordsman on earth

he's had far more experience than logan...being over 700 yrs old

he's also prob a bit smarter....that combined with muramasa makes this a very close fight

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Starscream M
ra's one of the greatest swordsman on earth

he's had far more experience than logan...being over 700 yrs old

he's also prob a bit smarter....that combined with muramasa makes this a very close fight


Wolverine better, so whats your point? Wolverine actaully has established sword fighting feats against established characters.

yea and he also had more experience then batman for all the good it did him 🙄 . Wolverine was trained by Ogun who several thousand years old and Ra's on steriods. He also beating angle of detah who thousands of years old as well with utter ease many many times.

being smarter is completely irrelevent, and as always your throw this retarded red herring out there as if it means anything. Only time that event be relevent is against rhino or with prep.

No it not a closes fight. Wolverine physically superior in every senses, he the better swordsmen, and he significantly better h2h fighter, let a lone with his claws which he even better with then swords. It really not a close fight at all, and there no evidence to suggest it is.

Bentley Seitei

Ra's suckz, Logan probably doesn't even need to pop out his claws to stomp this chump. Ra's end up impaled with it's own blade.

BlackZero30x Jack
Originally posted by Omega Vision
If we want to talk experience R'as has Wolverine beat by about 600-700 years.

👆

The Nuul Senior Member

Logan with more knowledge of the sword than Ras (he doesnt even know about what the sword can do), hes also much faster stronger, better reflexs, agility, Logan is just over all better.

Logan should stomp regardless of this sword.

753 Senior Member

Ras is frequently cited as the best swordsman alive and was at least batman's equal in fencing.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by 753
Ras is frequently cited as the best swordsman alive and was at least batman's equal in fencing.

Batmans not Wolverine equal in swordmenship either so I highly doubt why that matter. Wolverine actaully has swordman feats against established characters which really niether batman nor Ras has aside from against eachother. Wolverine significantly better with his claws then swords, just to show how out match Ra's really is.

Ra's is a poor mans Ogun.

The Nuul Senior Member
Originally posted by 753
Ras is frequently cited as the best swordsman alive and was at least batman's equal in fencing.

And? its takes a lot more than someone great at fencing to beat Logan.

753 Senior Member

Originally posted by The Nuul
And? its takes a lot more than someone great at fencing to beat Logan.
With a magical blade that cancels healing facor and cuts through anything, it doesn't. This doesnt mean he'll take a majority, but he can definitely kill wolverine.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by 753
With a magical blade that cancels healing facor and cuts through anything, it doesn't. This doesnt mean he'll take a majority, but he can definitely kill wolverine.

Not adamatium it doesent. Simply becuase it can negate a healing factor does not mean wolverine can lose. When he does not want to be hit he extremely hard to hit. He physically superior to Ra's, he more skilled swordsmen then him, he significantly better then him with his claws. He really should lose the vast majority of times.