Raphael vs Wolverine

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It's fine, we all have characters we like, but I try to portray them fairly. I don't think Spider-Man would beat Ock, Omega Red, or Hulk for the majority and I don't really care either. They're comic characters. No different than Iron Man, Flash, or anyone else. This KMC style of debating, "whoever has more feats is better" is really a shitty way to debate. There are loads of people on here who will just go and post respect thread scans and hate stats and then love stats when it benefits them. This happens often with characters who have had more appearances like Superman and Wolverine. They've had so many feats, they're bound to do something that puts them above their own league here and then.

Characters like Wolverine and Spider-Man generally beat most street level characters pretty soundly because of their superhuman stats. But they aren't unfalliable and lose to a higher tier pretty easily generally, or a group of a lower tier. The TMNT are a bit more than street, but not mid or high meta unless we're going by different versions.

Prove it, is what I am asking. I read ninja turtles, they arnt shit next to top tier streets.

I also never once stated he stomps them all. I said he stomp Raph which is a fact.

also this nonsenses that he only beats raph becuase of durability, is just that nonsenses. Wolverine is superior to raph in ever single senses. Again we are talking comic ninja turtles, there are versions of TV ones who are vastly more uber then there comic selfs.

Originally posted by Kinasin
Agreed...... What angered me is Dum Dum acting like tmnt is a damn joke and that wolverine would smash raphael like it was a baby against an elephant and then he goes on to act so damn cocky and confident because he knows I'm gonna have to dig through all my tmnt to post feats and all he has to do is go to the next respect thread in line which is BS.

Originally posted by Kinasin
Agreed...... What angered me is Dum Dum acting like tmnt is a damn joke and that wolverine would smash raphael like it was a baby against an elephant and then he goes on to act so damn cocky and confident because he knows I'm gonna have to dig through all my tmnt to post feats and all he has to do is go to the next respect thread in line which is BS.

I will be waiting, becuase you aint finding shit.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Prove it, is what I am asking. I read ninja turtles, they arnt shit next to top tier streets.

I also never once stated he stomps them all. I said he stomp Raph which is a fact.

also this nonsenses that he only beats raph becuase of durability, is just that nonsenses. Wolverine is superior to raph in ever single senses. Again we are talking comic ninja turtles, there are versions of TV ones who are vastly more uber then there comic selfs.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Don't give me this bullshit cop out. Put your money were your mouth is and prove it.

I challange you to a battlezone Wolverine vs all four ninja turtles.

If it such a rediculous stomp in the turtles favore, you won't have any problems proving it now will you?

but of course you won't your gunna run scared. Please I can easily prove my points, and I know your completely full of shit. i can already tell you have no idea what yoru talking about and clearly don't read the ninja turtles or wolverine.

I know I own and have read more comics of ninja turtles then you have, so don't give me your superior then though crap, becuase your full of shit.

also if I was a troll I would have been banned long ago you putz.

I wont hold my breath for the comic evidences, becuase we all know you don't have any. shit I could probly post a link to the first entire volume if not the first 2 volumes and not a thing in it is impressive even by mid streets standards.

also there really shouldent be confusion over whats cannon with them. This is not a cross genre thread. Which means it comic versions of them, not to mention unlike SF they dident start of as a game or a show, they started off as a comic.

why did you just post two quotes by me? Yea I called you out? I looking for you to actuall provided evidence.......dont see the reaoson for quoting me.......

Does dum dum have like a free curse as much as you want pass??? How much are those because I wouldn't mind having one.

Originally posted by Kinasin
Does dum dum have like a free curse as much as you want pass??? How much are those because I wouldn't mind having one.

honestly I bet I could argue your side more convincing then you can. Shit I could even post feats for them unlike some one we know.........

It is what is canon though, SF isn't canon through comics, but they've had a healthy comic run. I am really curious about what is canon though. I think that it's possible... well no it isn't because Shredder died in the first arc, so it wouldn't be probably canon at all.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
right next to your "Im talking out my ass pass and won;t ever provide evidence for my claims, but will countinue to make excuses about how there no ninja turtle thread".

honestly I bet I could argue your side more convincing then you can. Shit I could even post feats for them unlike some one we know.........

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Prove it, is what I am asking. I read ninja turtles, they arnt shit next to top tier streets.

I also never once stated he stomps them all. I said he stomp Raph which is a fact.

also this nonsenses that he only beats raph becuase of durability, is just that nonsenses. Wolverine is superior to raph in ever single senses. Again we are talking comic ninja turtles, there are versions of TV ones who are vastly more uber then there comic selfs.

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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Don't give me this bullshit cop out. Put your money were your mouth is and prove it.

I challange you to a battlezone Wolverine vs all four ninja turtles.

If it such a rediculous stomp in the turtles favore, you won't have any problems proving it now will you?

but of course you won't your gunna run scared. Please I can easily prove my points, and I know your completely full of shit. i can already tell you have no idea what yoru talking about and clearly don't read the ninja turtles or wolverine.

I know I own and have read more comics of ninja turtles then you have, so don't give me your superior then though crap, becuase your full of shit.

also if I was a troll I would have been banned long ago you putz.

I wont hold my breath for the comic evidences, becuase we all know you don't have any. shit I could probly post a link to the first entire volume if not the first 2 volumes and not a thing in it is impressive even by mid streets standards.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It is what is canon though, SF isn't canon through comics, but they've had a healthy comic run. I am really curious about what is canon though. I think that it's possible... well no it isn't because Shredder died in the first arc, so it wouldn't be probably canon at all.

The original volumes are msot deffiently cannon, I not even sure how that be debatable....since it started as a comic.

Man you two are like Starscream and Battlehammer, you crazy kids.

How is the original canon when Shredder died. He is a recurring villain. I was thinking it was possible for many of the stories to combine together, but I don't know.

Originally posted by Kinasin
didn't say *** and as far as evidence for claims goes like I said when I start a wolverine vs tmnt thread you will get the evidence. I decided to reread through all of them at my own leisure and when I'm done compiling my evidence I will gladly stomp you and also why did you say you didn't say wolverine could take all of tmnt when that is what you you are challenging me to.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Prove it, is what I am asking. I read ninja turtles, they arnt shit next to top tier streets.

I also never once stated he stomps them all. I said he stomp Raph which is a fact.

also this nonsenses that he only beats raph becuase of durability, is just that nonsenses. Wolverine is superior to raph in ever single senses. Again we are talking comic ninja turtles, there are versions of TV ones who are vastly more uber then there comic selfs.

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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Don't give me this bullshit cop out. Put your money were your mouth is and prove it.

I challange you to a battlezone Wolverine vs all four ninja turtles.

If it such a rediculous stomp in the turtles favore, you won't have any problems proving it now will you?

but of course you won't your gunna run scared. Please I can easily prove my points, and I know your completely full of shit. i can already tell you have no idea what yoru talking about and clearly don't read the ninja turtles or wolverine.

I know I own and have read more comics of ninja turtles then you have, so don't give me your superior then though crap, becuase your full of shit.

also if I was a troll I would have been banned long ago you putz.

I wont hold my breath for the comic evidences, becuase we all know you don't have any. shit I could probly post a link to the first entire volume if not the first 2 volumes and not a thing in it is impressive even by mid streets standards.

I said I never once said he stomps them all, I said he stomps raph. Though I certainly believe he beats them all, I just don't think it a stomp. again posting my quotes over and over are pointless. espcially when it doesent help your arguement.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Man you two are like Starscream and Battlehammer, you crazy kids.

How is the original canon when Shredder died. He is a recurring villain. I was thinking it was possible for many of the stories to combine together, but I don't know.

shredder dieing and apearing in other media, does not make original series any less cannon.

Dum you really think that he can take on all the turtles at once......
He would be getting hit with sai's,katana,and pole and nunchuks by mutant turtles who are all possibly the greatest masters with said weapons in their respective universe.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
what would be cannon would be the original stories. The original media is always what is cannon.

shredder dieing and apearing in other media, does not make original series any less cannon.

Originally posted by Kinasin
Dum you really think that he can take on all the turtles at once......

Now there current comics are much more impressive, but still not nearly as impressive as people like DD. I not even sure there current comics are even cannon.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Possible, although it doesn't make anything else uncanon for the last 3 decades. As I said, I'm not sure. SF had the other issue of myriads of endings and reboots as well with retcons, but comics do that all the time.

Thunder cats for one has comics, but there not cannon. There cannon to themselfs, but the original and actaul cannon is the original TV show.

Originally posted by Kinasin
Dum you really think that he can take on all the turtles at once......
He would be getting hit with sai's,katana,and pole and nunchuks by mutant turtles who are all possibly the greatest masters with said weapons in their respective universe.

Originally posted by Kinasin
He would be taking on all of them at once he would end up getting knocked out and donatello would come up with some crazy invention that teleports him into space where he wouldn't be able to breath and he would freeze as well.

dude they don't randomly get one sided prep time......honestly was this even a serous arguement?