Cross Genre General Discussion Thread

Originally posted by carver9
Yep and the only reason its like that is because goku and vegeta is far more powerful than their sons.

In GT SS4 goku says that trunks and goten fusing won't do any good against baby and that SS4 is still their high card.If Goten and trunks are much more powerful as late teenagers-early adults then they were as kids(as goku was like 5 and trunks like 7)would that make gotanks around the power level of vegito?

If that made any sense.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
K just making.But something is confusing me.

In GT SS4 goku says that trunks and goten fusing won't do any good against baby and that SS4 is still their high card.If Goten and trunks are much more powerful as late teenagers-early adults then they were as kids(as goku was like 5 and trunks like 7)would that make gotanks around the power level of vegito?

If that made any sense.

Nope, goten and trunks didn't train after the buu saga... trunks ended up being a ceo of a multi million dollar company and gotenks was in college. They were weakened... so with that said, they never reached super saiyan 2 whereas goku was a super saiyan 3 and vegeta made it to a super saiyan 2. So they would be more powerful.

Originally posted by carver9
Nope, goten and trunks didn't train after the buu saga... trunks ended up being a ceo of a multi million dollar company and gotenks was in college. They were weakened... so with that said, they never reached super saiyan 2 whereas goku was a super saiyan 3 and vegeta made it to a super saiyan 2. So they would be more powerful.

Why talk about GT? It was utter crap.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why talk about GT? It was utter crap.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No its not.Its a little more PISy then regular DBZ but its still good.

Writing was terrible, fights were unimaginative, and the characters sucked.

Really the whole DB franchise starts going downhill midway through the Frieza Saga.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Utter. Crap.

Writing was terrible, fights were unimaginative, and the characters sucked.

Really the whole DB franchise starts going downhill midway through the Frieza Saga.

Writing wasn't terrible,fights weren't unimaginative,and characters didn't suck.OK mabye super 17 sucked.

Mid-way?Whole freiza saga was good IMO.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No.It.Wasn't.

Writing wasn't terrible,fights weren't unimaginative,and characters didn't suck.OK mabye super 17 sucked.

Mid-way?Whole freiza saga was good IMO.

The premise was retarded: Goku becomes a kid again and they have to go on yet another scavenger hunt to find the plot device evil!Dragon Balls.

You're telling me you enjoyed the ten-twenty episodes of Frieza and Goku staring at one another?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why talk about GT? It was utter crap.

I agree with this.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yes. It. Was.

The premise was retarded: Goku becomes a kid again and they have to go on yet another scavenger hunt to find the plot device evil!Dragon Balls.

You're telling me you enjoyed the ten-twenty episodes of Frieza and Goku staring at one another?

I enjoyed it...although they could have not made him a kid again.

I thought I read on IMDB its like the longest fight between two people in history.Or at least in anime.19 episodes.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No.

I enjoyed it...although they could have not made him a kid again.

I thought I read on IMDB its like the longest fight between two people in history.Or at least in anime.19 episodes.

And guess what 10 of those episodes with them fighting only lasted 5 minutes. That will never be repeated... that's true speed.

Originally posted by carver9
And guess what 10 of those episodes with them fighting only lasted 5 minutes. That will never be repeated... that's true speed.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I thought I counted about 7 episodes.And thats only about 20x normal speed.Which is fast but i'm not even sure thats bullet timing.But when if you count in like 2.5 of those minutes to be talking which they were thats about 40x normal time.Which by herald standards still isn't that fast.But fast none-the-less.

Huh? Where are you getting 20 times normal speed? Especially with everything that went on in that fight. Twenty times normal speed is deathstoke and spiderman type of speed. Goku and frieza was moving and tremendous speeds and was throwing hundreds if not thousands of punches within a short time. That fight was far faster than 20 times normal speed. That would be like goku or frieza punching at least 40 times per minute... is that what you truly believe?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's more like 98% canon, since not all game mechanics are canon and if a statement from a high up Bungie staff member contradicts the game the statement becomes canon. At least that's my understanding.

i was talking about plot and story elements.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No they're not equal but for halo they're a close second. I don't see why they wouldn't be allowed though. I thought there was a power difference even if only slight.

But vegito>Gotanks right?

it's at the discretion of the thread makers.

Originally posted by carver9
Huh? Where are you getting 20 times normal speed? Especially with everything that went on in that fight. Twenty times normal speed is deathstoke and spiderman type of speed. Goku and frieza was moving and tremendous speeds and was throwing hundreds if not thousands of punches within a short time. That fight was far faster than 20 times normal speed. That would be like goku or frieza punching at least 40 times per minute... is that what you truly believe?

They were moving at about 60-65x normal speed in that fight.I'm pretty sure I did that math right.So 1 min for us=1 second or them.Which by stands of the likes of superman,surfer,thor isn't all that fast.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i was talking about plot and story elements.

it's at the discretion of the thread makers.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I don't see why they wouldn't always be included but OK.

it's the same reason the star wars ones wouldn't.

Originally posted by -Pr-
it's the same reason the star wars ones wouldn't.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Which I still don't see why they wouldn't.But OK.If a SW or Halo thread gets made hopefully OV will make books credible there. 😄

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Originally posted by Black bolt z
If each episode is roughly 20 min and there were 7 episodes in actual 5 min.Thats 140 min in 5 min.So 28 min per minute.If half of that time was talking which it was that thats about 56min per minute.And since its more then 20....

They were moving at about 60-65x normal speed in that fight.I'm pretty sure I did that math right.So 1 min for us=1 second or them.Which by stands of the likes of superman,surfer,thor isn't all that fast.

Huh? Lol... you don't use how long the episodes are...lol. its pretty obvious they slowed the fight down so that we can see it... that's why the fight made so many episodes. That's like me saying since zoom and flash fight lasted an entire comic the fight must have taken hours when it was basically stated on panel that they were fighting in less than a millisecond.

Flash and zoom also talked in their fight but it still doesn't take away from the fact that it lasted less than a seecond. Your caculations is jacked... you don't base things off of how long an episode lasted... that would take away from the fact that it was stated as being a 5 minute fight.