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Dr. Strange stated that Zom was "indescribably more dangerous than a dozen Umars", he was referring to Umar sister of Dormammu. She may not have his skill but she's his equal in terms of raw power.
Zom ,while bound in his "Chains of Eternal Bondage", was melting Umar's spells like a blow torch melts snowflakes. She stated "The legends of a thousand various dimensions say, if Zom ever breaks free of his chains, no power in the universe can stop him".
Dr. Strange was stunned that even while bound by the Chains and Crown of Blindness he was still unbowed and totally out of Strange's league in terms of power.
Zom really is that badass.
Originally posted by Uriel005
... Shuma Goroth is a dimension conquering beast. He gets crazy nerfed when leaving his dimension. As far as I'm aware Zom is still working on just conquering dimension 616. Shuma takes this one.
Shuma got stomped in his own realm, where supposedly he's all powerful, by Strange.
Strange and the Ancient One were powerless before Zom until the Tribunal stepped in. He's not more or less powerful depending on what dimension he's in.
Originally posted by zopzop
Shuma got stomped in his own realm, where supposedly he's all powerful, by Strange.Strange and the Ancient One were powerless before Zom until the Tribunal stepped in. He's not more or less powerful depending on what dimension he's in.
Well Shuma-Gorath itself states it rules hundreds of dimensions. And at this time authors were referring to whole universes as dimensions, meaning Shuma-Gorath ruled hundreds of universes:
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Strange/Arioch who was = Shuma-Gorath had enough power to bust galaxies by his mere presence. Also, the battle between Shuma-Gorath and Strange/Arioch was causing so much damage that it would have destroyed all the nether-realms in existence. While there are certainly feats by Marvel characters that are greater, Zom is definitely not one of them with those feats. Dr Strange stalemated Zom the whole time even before the Ancient one gave the remains of his power to him. Zom is hyped so much all based on very vague hyperbole. If he cannot even beat Doctor Strange with hardly any prep then he isn't getting passed Shuma. Hell, I doubt he'd get passed Arioch.
Strange/Arioch who was = Shuma-Gorath had enough power to bust galaxies by his mere presence. Also, the battle between Shuma-Gorath and Strange/Arioch was causing so much damage that it would have destroyed all the nether-realms in existence.
The thing that gets me is, the ease in which Strange bested Arioch and Gorath. He never beat Zom. All he did was delay until the LT showed up and roasted him. Yet still he didn't die. He survived the LT's wrath. And this sliver of Zom has the potential to become "Full Zom" if given a chance.
Strange literally absorbed Arioch. Then went on to hurl a flaming visage of the planet Earth at Gorath and defeat him. The End.
While there are certainly feats by Marvel characters that are greater, Zom is definitely not one of them with those feats. Dr Strange stalemated Zom the whole time even before the Ancient one gave the remains of his power to him. Zom is hyped so much all based on very vague hyperbole. If he cannot even beat Doctor Strange with hardly any prep then he isn't getting passed Shuma. Hell, I doubt he'd get passed Arioch.
You are correct that he was basically running around pot shotting Zom. He himself stated he had no chance to beat him. Keep in mind this was happening with Zom's hands bound by "Chains of Living Bondage", Strange was amazed he could even function with those things on. Umar stated if he ever freed himself from the bonds, it was pretty much over for the universe.
Even with the manacles, he was melting Umar's spells with ease. She stated that he "dwarfed her in power."
As the fight progressed you see him snap the chains but not the manacles. It looked like he was going to do so till the whole "forelock/LT beatdown".
Originally posted by Bentley
We need a Shuma Gorath respect thread.
LOL we have one.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t477775.html