Cross Genre Match #17: Mace Windu vs Iron Spider-Man

Started by KuRuPT Thanosi11 pages

Um a stationary Object twirling around and around is A LOT different than someone attacking you from many angles striking at 20 strikes per second. That is the huge difference here

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What does Grievous's 20 strike per second feats aren't diminished because he can twirl his arms and torso.. How does that change a thing? You still have to deal with the amount of strikes and parry them and respond. The fact is... I've never seen Spiderman strike and that speed.

Anakin who has super enhanced stats.. plus pre-cog viewed them as a blur a mist... That is plain faster than Spiderman.

It has to do with the fact that it's not a product of Grievous's skill, it's just that as a robot he can twirl his hands or upper body like a propeller while holding a lightsaber. Indiana Jones can dodge a damn spinning blade.

Originally posted by illadelph12
It has to do with the fact that it's not a product of Grievous's skill, it's just that as a robot he can twirl his hands or upper body like a propeller while holding a lightsaber. Indiana Jones can dodge a damn spinning blade.

Thats not how he fights in the clone wars however. The only reason he even relies on such tactics in the movie, is becuase his body is so weaken from maces assault on him.

He pulled out the same move against the Jedi in the cave.

So in Scenario One Spiderman is still allowed to use his long range abilities like webbing?

Seems weird to me to do that and not allow Mace the ability to counter it. If you were simply trying to test their physical abilities then it would seem best to take away all non physical abilities.

Anyways Scenario 2 is Mace all Day every day. The Force is too much and gives Mace too much versatility.

Scenario 1: The lightsaber is still gonna be a ***** for Spidey to get around and Mace's linear speed and jumping ability I would say are better than Spiderman's.

Reaction speed I'll go toss up Jedi are intense but so is spidey. I don't see one having a great edge over the other.

durability is moot although I would say that Mace would more likely be able to take one of Spiderman's hits then vice versa thanks to the lightsaber.

Spidey getting to keep his webbing will also be a ***** for Mace to overcome.

I'll Scenario 2 is 5/10. Spidey will need to keep his range or get the Saber from Mace both aren't easy to do, but Spidey has the advantage with Range to get it done, but Mace has the absolute One Hit Kill/disable attack. Spidey may need a good 2 or 3 flush hits to take out Mace.

Originally posted by illadelph12
He pulled out the same move against the Jedi in the cave.

really when? not to say he dident, but I recall him fighting a lot different, he even held a light sabre in his feet.

Originally posted by Newjak
So in Scenario One Spiderman is still allowed to use his long range abilities like webbing?

Seems weird to me to do that and not allow Mace the ability to counter it. If you were simply trying to test their physical abilities then it would seem best to take away all non physical abilities.

Anyways Scenario 2 is Mace all Day every day. The Force is too much and gives Mace too much versatility.

Scenario 1: The lightsaber is still gonna be a ***** for Spidey to get around and Mace's linear speed and jumping ability I would say are better than Spiderman's.

Reaction speed I'll go toss up Jedi are intense but so is spidey. I don't see one having a great edge over the other.

durability is moot although I would say that Mace would more likely be able to take one of Spiderman's hits then vice versa thanks to the lightsaber.

Spidey getting to keep his webbing will also be a ***** for Mace to overcome.

I'll Scenario 2 is 5/10. Spidey will need to keep his range or get the Saber from Mace both aren't easy to do, but Spidey has the advantage with Range to get it done, but Mace has the absolute One Hit Kill/disable attack. Spidey may need a good 2 or 3 flush hits to take out Mace.


I really liked this post, well thought out 😄

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Um a stationary Object twirling around and around is A LOT different than someone attacking you from many angles striking at 20 strikes per second. That is the huge difference here
Neither instance of swinging through a helicopter rotor involve the helicopter being stationary... in one, it's flying through the air, and in the other it's free falling.

A quick couple of searches seem to indicate that helicopter rotor's roughly spin at 500 RPM, or rotations per minute- meaning each blade would hit the same spot about 8.3 times per second. There are four blades, so would that come out to a single spot being struck ~33.2 times/second?

Something like that anyways. Even if it was half that speed, considering the helicopter was in free fall, and Spider-Man was distracted with the task of saving two pilots in danger of falling to their deaths while accomplishing this, and having to spam webbing so that the falling helicopter didn't crush everybody beneath, and (here's the really impressive part worth typing in bold) he moved his entire body through without being struck by a single blade, which is way more movement than necessary for a fight such as this where he just needs to move, say, his arm out of the way....

I think we can conclude that Spider-Man is sufficiently fast to keep up here. Based on the evidence provided.

Originally posted by Existere
Neither instance of swinging through a helicopter rotor involve the helicopter being stationary... in one, it's flying through the air, and in the other it's free falling.

A quick couple of searches seem to indicate that helicopter rotor's roughly spin at 500 RPM, or rotations per minute- meaning each blade would hit the same spot about 8.3 times per second. There are four blades, so would that come out to a single spot being struck ~33.2 times/second?

Something like that anyways. Even if it was half that speed, considering the helicopter was in free fall, and Spider-Man was distracted with the task of saving two pilots in danger of falling to their deaths while accomplishing this, and having to spam webbing so that the falling helicopter didn't crush everybody beneath, and (here's the really impressive part worth typing in bold) [b]he moved his entire body through without being struck by a single blade, which is way more movement than necessary for a fight such as this where he just needs to move, say, his arm out of the way....

I think we can conclude that Spider-Man is sufficiently fast to keep up here. Based on the evidence provided. [/B]

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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
really when? not to say he dident, but I recall him fighting a lot different, he even held a light sabre in his feet.

In the episode where a Republic ship had crashed and I believe 5 Jedi adn a Padawan were trapped under it in a cave pinned down by a batallion of droids. I believe that was Grievous's 1st on screen showing. First he combats the Jedi with conventional uses of his arms with the sabres, then he spins his upper body like a top with his arms and sabers outstretched as the Jedi surround him. After dropping two Jedi he then begins to twirl his hands like propellors as he moves in on the last two Jedi standing.

here you go the entire fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXQx_QLY8XM

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
here you go the entire fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXQx_QLY8XM

Thta's one of the few episodes I've ever saw.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Indiana Jones can dodge a damn spinning blade.
Bad analogy. Indiana is also one of the few people who can wear a purse and still be a badass. none

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
here you go the entire fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXQx_QLY8XM

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So what happens at 1:27 in the clip, and then at 2:19? Exactly what I said, right?

Originally posted by Galan007
Bad analogy. Indiana is also one of the few people who can wear a purse and still be a badass. none

Indiana Jones is pure win.

[i]Originally a product of Grievous's skill, it's just that as a robot he can twirl his hands or upper body like a propeller while holding a lightsaber. Indiana Jones can dodge a damn spinning blade. [/B]

Yeah that's not what wa shappening...
"The electrodrivers powering Grievous's mechanical arms let each of the four attack thrice in a single second; integrated by combat algorithms in the bio-droid's electronic network of peripheral processors, each of the twelve strikes per second came from a different angle with different speed and intensity, an unpredictably broken rhythm of slashes, chops, and stabs of which every single one could take Obi-Wan's life. Not one touched him."

He then speeds up to twenty strikes per second.

"Grievous, snarling fury, ramped up the intensity and velocity of his attacks-sixteen per second, eighteen-until finally, at twenty strikes per second, he overloaded Obi-Wan's defense. So Obi-Wan used his defense to attack."

Is that the narrative to the events in Revenge of the Sith, or a different encounter?

Revenge of the Sith.

Im assuming no CIS means that Spiderman will fight seriously and will only make an opening one liner(because its neccesary for spiderman to make a oneliner before a fight). In which case spiderman will win because with no offense force and spiderman dodgin every freakin lightsaber swing with his spidersense mace has no way to hit him. Even if mace can see the attacks coming he can dodge like spiderman, he has a backbone.
Of course with force turned on Windu blows Parker out of the water. Simply because spiderman stops to say his one liner and has no way in hell of defending an imploded chest.

In the first scenario Spider-Man beats him down. In the second scenario, Mace f*cking destroys Parker.