Cross Genre Match #17: Mace Windu vs Iron Spider-Man

Started by KuRuPT Thanosi11 pages
KuRuPT Thanosi Senior Member
Originally posted by Omega Vision
^ What speed feats does Grievous have that would be undeniably superior to what Spider-Man has shown? And how is it even relevant? I recall the Mace Greivous fight lasting ten seconds and consisting of Windu force crushing Greivous's lungs and the general then running off, IE: neither a showing of skill or speed for Windu, just force power.

Grievous's 20 strike per second feats. Grievous tooling countless Jedi's like they were weak feebs. 20 Strikes per second is incredibly fast and I've NEVER seen Spidey strike that fast.

Again though... just looking at the Sid's fight.. again Anakin perceived them as blurs they were moving so fast. Sids was moving so fast he was like a dark mist... That is worlds faster than an fast fighting I've seen Spidey do. If not, please post the scans of him moving that fast or striking 20 strikes per second.

illadelph12 aka Rakim Illa
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
no it not. At best it be aim dodging, and even then doubtful. I have to see what your talking about to be sure, but I don't recall such a think happening.

Near the end of the film (at about the 1 hr 40 minute mark) where they are heading to catch Boba Fett and Slave 1. Chewy, Lando and Leah have their backs turned as they look at the ship fly off when some Storm Troopers come up behind them and open fire. R2-D2, from a stationary position, spins in place, rolls forward to a stop, rolls backwards, spins a couple more times, then rolls off slowly to the left to follow the rest of the group, dodging all of the incoming fire.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Grievous's 20 strike per second feats. Grievous tooling countless Jedi's like they were weak feebs. 20 Strikes per second is incredibly fast and I've NEVER seen Spidey strike that fast.

Again though... just looking at the Sid's fight.. again Anakin perceived them as blurs they were moving so fast. Sids was moving so fast he was like a dark mist... That is worlds faster than an fast fighting I've seen Spidey do. If not, please post the scans of him moving that fast or striking 20 strikes per second.


This sounds like a Carver post, in that you're judging the efficacy of feats based on how they "look" rather than what they are.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
^ What speed feats does Grievous have that would be undeniably superior to what Spider-Man has shown? And how is it even relevant? I recall the Mace Greivous fight lasting ten seconds and consisting of Windu force crushing Greivous's lungs and the general then running off, IE: neither a showing of skill or speed for Windu, just force power.

Grievous could be relevent, because dooku easily beat him, and mace was beating him on top of the train pretty solidly and dooku was force to run for his life once mace was distracted by four of grevious men. Dooku even with the aid still fled believing himself incapable of handling mace. Also mace beatn the assasin AJJ ventress or however it spelled very easily she was on grevious level if not mistaken.

illadelph12 aka Rakim Illa

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Grievous's 20 strike per second feats. Grievous tooling countless Jedi's like they were weak feebs. 20 Strikes per second is incredibly fast and I've NEVER seen Spidey strike that fast.

Again though... just looking at the Sid's fight.. again Anakin perceived them as blurs they were moving so fast. Sids was moving so fast he was like a dark mist... That is worlds faster than an fast fighting I've seen Spidey do. If not, please post the scans of him moving that fast or striking 20 strikes per second.

Does that 20 strikes per second stat have anything to do with the fact that Grievous can spin his hands and torso like a propeller?

SamZED Senior Member

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Grievous's 20 strike per second feats. Grievous tooling countless Jedi's like they were weak feebs. 20 Strikes per second is incredibly fast and I've NEVER seen Spidey strike that fast.

Again though... just looking at the Sid's fight.. again Anakin perceived them as blurs they were moving so fast. Sids was moving so fast he was like a dark mist... That is worlds faster than an fast fighting I've seen Spidey do. If not, please post the scans of him moving that fast or striking 20 strikes per second.

Spider-man moves in a blur all the time, more than that he often moves so fast he vanishes out of peoples sight. He's dodged 1000s of bullets fired at him from every direction, dozens of lasers fired by machines that were tracking his every move, he's dodged a lightning. Outran a bullet. And as for ABC logic, he punks Speed deamon like every saturday and the guy is faster than anyone you've mentioned so far. All the scans are in his respect thread, check them out.

illadelph12 aka Rakim Illa
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Grievous could be relevent, because dooku easily beat him, and mace was beating him on top of the train pretty solidly and dooku was force to run for his life once mace was distracted by four of grevious men. Dooku even with the aid still fled believing himself incapable of handling mace. Also mace beatn the assasin AJJ ventress or however it spelled very easily she was on grevious level if not mistaken.

Are you sure it wasn't the fact that Dooku had a prior engagement and couldn't be bothered to waste time fighting Mace?

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Pure sophistry. Manipulating the external environment counts as an offensive act even if the offense isn't against the opponent. In Scenario One he's limited to amping his stats and nothing more.

thats not what your thread says, it says no offensive force attacks, You can't change the rules because you don't like how it being used. I not talking about him using it to manipulating the environment. I saying he uses it to deflect anything spiderman throws or shoots at him. Thats not offensive at all, deflecty is pure defensive move.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by SamZED
Spider-man moves in a blur all the time, more than that he often moves so fast he vanishes out of peoples sight. He's dodged 1000s of bullets fired at him from every direction, dozens of lasers fired by machines that were tracking his every move, he's dodged a lightning. Outran a bullet. And as for ABC logic, he punks Speed deamon like every saturday and the guy is faster than anyone you've mentioned so far. All the scans are in his respect thread, check them out.

I think he mean to even Anikin eyes they were blurs. That a huge differences, anakin clear meta human in reaction and combat speed.

illadelph12 aka Rakim Illa

Actually, that was my original stipulation (force amping of physical stats only in battle one).

Omega went dyslexic on me when he posted the stips!

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by illadelph12
Are you sure it wasn't the fact that Dooku had a prior engagement and couldn't be bothered to waste time fighting Mace?

No he was scared of mace and wanted nothing to do with him after a few moments of fighting dooku new he was overmatched and even believed he states that he was very relieved that grevious men came to his aid, allowing him to escape the powerful jedi master.

ares834 Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
^ What speed feats does Grievous have that would be undeniably superior to what Spider-Man has shown? And how is it even relevant? I recall the Mace Greivous fight lasting ten seconds and consisting of Windu force crushing Greivous's lungs and the general then running off, IE: neither a showing of skill or speed for Windu, just force power.

They duel in Labyrinth of Evil.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
thats not what your thread says, it says no offensive force attacks, You can't change the rules because you don't like how it being used. I not talking about him using it to manipulating the environment. I saying he uses it to deflect anything spiderman throws or shoots at him. Thats not offensive at all, deflecty is pure defensive move.

I can't fill in a loophole because your argument is contingent on it?

Sure buddy. 😂

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by illadelph12
Actually, that was my original stipulation (force amping of physical stats only in battle one).

Omega went dyslexic on me when he posted the stips!


those are the stips, and the rule of the forum means we fallow them, not what you wished them to be.

illadelph12 aka Rakim Illa
Originally posted by ares834
They duel in Labyrinth of Evil.

And both survived?

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I can't fill in a loophole because your argument is contingent on it?

Sure buddy. 😂


No because it not on the stips, and forum rules are clear on this. It must be stated in the stip. Not my fault you want to change the stip all of a sudden because mace now has the ability to literraly make it impossable to spiderman to hurt him with range attacks.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
those are the stips, and the rule of the forum means we fallow them, not what you wished them to be.

Are you telling me how to run my CG threads? And telling Delph what his original stips were?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
No because it not on the stips, and forum rules are clear on this. It must be stated in the stip. Not my fault you want to change the stip all of a sudden because mace now has the ability to literraly make it impossable to spiderman to hurt him with range attacks.

I don't have to change the stips since it was my intention from the beginning to limit Mace to force amping in Scenario One.

You're just using wordplay here, frankly I don't give a damn how you interpret the stips.

Deal with it.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by illadelph12

Omega went dyslexic on me when he posted the stips!


I am dyslexic and that has nothing to do with Omega mistake.

SamZED Senior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I think he mean to even Anikin eyes they were blurs. That a huge differences, anakin clear meta human in reaction and combat speed.
Oh.. My bad. Thought he meant in general. But either way, SM has moved so fast people with enhanced reflexes couldnt track his movement.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Are you telling me how to run my CG threads? And telling Delph what his original stips were?

yes, because clearly you don't know how to. It not part of the stip, then it no in effect, also don't give me this superior then though attitude. Just because you suck manga dicks and got this little cross genra thing going, does not make you all powerful when it comes to these threads. It not in the stip, then it not part of the thread plain an simply.