Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Who do you think is faster, Mace Windu or Spider-Man ?Who do you think is more durable ?
Who do you think is stronger ?
Who do you think is more agile ?
Who do you think has the most experience fighting super powered people ?
Oh and Mace Windu the better fighter ? On paper maybe. Spider-Man has developed his own unique fighting style, a completely unpredictable fighting style based on reflexes, agility, strength, spider-sense and experience.
Mace Windu has never fought somebody like Spider-Man before. Spider-Man fights super powered freaks every day of the week.
Dodging lasers. That's like lesson number one for each new hero in the Marvel universe. [/B]
You do realize that all jedi posses superhuman abilities as do numerous aliens in star wars. This is simply ignorance from you assuming Mace has not fought super powered individuals.
No Mace is a better fighter period. The fact you think it even debtable shows your ignorance and bias for spiderman. Spiderman is not a good fighter, not compared to people like Mace who be consider one of the best fighters in marvel. He on a completely different level of skill. Spiderman unique style is him relying on his powers, thats not skill, that him ultilzing his powers. His style is not even that unpredictable infact Punisher stated how ease it was to predict his movements. It spidermans spidersense which makes him upredictable not his style of fighting.
not a single street level guy has deflect and dodged laser on the same level as what I am talking about.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganWell yeah, based on that. I didnt say they're "not fast" but they dont seem to be faster than bullets. Heck even if they were faster, Mace deflecting lasers isnt enough to put him above Spider-man, not even close.
There not that fast based on what? becuase you can see them? You don't have normal humans in SW dodging laser's not like you have them dodging bullets in comics.Honestly spidermans webbing moving faster then a bullets is BS. It can easily be chalked up to spiderman using the webbing prior to the bullets being fired because of his spidersenses. The vast and I mean vast majority of the time his webbing is no wear near the speed of a bullet.
Im not saying that webbing is an auto win, but it definitely would come in handy. I just wanted to point it out that it was clearly shown to move faster than bullets on occasions.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganMan, Spider-man is not on Mace level but tbh saying that he's "not a good fighter" just because Mace is much better isnt accurate. He's a good fighter no matter what, capable of hanging with the said best fighters in marvel. And its not just because of his powers but skills too.
Spiderman is not a good fighter, not compared to people like Mace who be consider one of the best fighters in marvel. He on a completely different level of skill.
Originally posted by SamZED
Well yeah, based on that. I didnt say they're "not fast" but they dont seem to be faster than bullets. Heck even if they were faster, Mace deflecting lasers isnt enough to put him above Spider-man, not even close.Im not saying that webbing is an auto win, but it definitely would come in handy. I just wanted to point it out that it was clearly shown to move faster than bullets on occasions.
I don't think webbing being as fast as bullets is legit, I really feel it spiderman spidersenses allowing him to achieve that more so then webbing speed. think his webbing has a few pis moments. Webbing not gunna be effective hear being mace can still uses force defensively meaning he can easly block webbing with the force.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganYeah, agreed.
It because it a movie, but it at the very least mves as fast as bullets. Never saying he was, but he certainly as fast.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganIts not just that, it was actually shown how Spider-man started shooting his webs after the gun was fired. So maybe not all the time but it was def shown on occasions. He may not be able to web him up but there are other ways to use the webbing, as a distraction, to set traps etc. Just saying.
I don't think webbing being as fast as bullets is legit, I really feel it spiderman spidersenses allowing him to achieve that more so then webbing speed. think his webbing has a few pis moments. Webbing not gunna be effective hear being mace can still uses force defensively meaning he can easly block webbing with the force.
Originally posted by SamZED
Yeah, agreed.Its not just that, it was actually shown how Spider-man started shooting his webs after the gun was fired. So maybe not all the time but it was def shown on occasions. He may not be able to web him up but there are other ways to use the webbing, as a distraction, to set traps etc. Just saying.
I know but honestly that should be pis. especially considering the speed it normally operates at. here the thing even if we had webbing as fast as bullets it would not change how ineffective it would be. It won't distract mace at all. He can easily deflect it away with the force which is well within his ability to do and easily. It take more effort for spiderman to attempt to web him then it would for mace to deflect it. Not to mention mace would sense such an attack a mile away.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I know but honestly that should be pis. especially considering the speed it normally operates at. here the thing even if we had webbing as fast as bullets it would not change how ineffective it would be. It won't distract mace at all. He can easily deflect it away with the force which is well within his ability to do and easily. It take more effort for spiderman to attempt to web him then it would for mace to deflect it. Not to mention mace would sense such an attack a mile away.
Wait Wait Wait... where is the evidence that Spider-Man is faster than Mace?
Do you guys remember what Mace is shown doing during the Clone Wars.. He's dogging multiple laser blasts that are faster than Spidey's webbing.
Are we forgetting his fight with Sids... Anakin perceives them fighting a blur... it's as if sids was a dark mist he was moving so fast. Mace had no trouble dealing with this speed.
Grievous would be faster than Spidey and he got dealt with easily.
Where is this evidence spidey is faster or could get the jump on Mace?
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiI hope you're aware of the fact that your comment works vice versa?
Wait Wait Wait... where is the evidence that Spider-Man is faster than Mace?Do you guys remember what Mace is shown doing during the Clone Wars.. He's dogging multiple laser blasts that are faster than Spidey's webbing.
Are we forgetting his fight with Sids... Anakin perceives them fighting a blur... it's as if sids was a dark mist he was moving so fast. Mace had no trouble dealing with this speed.
Grievous would be faster than Spidey and he got dealt with easily.
Where is this evidence spidey is faster or could get the jump on Mace?
^ What speed feats does Grievous have that would be undeniably superior to what Spider-Man has shown? And how is it even relevant? I recall the Mace Greivous fight lasting ten seconds and consisting of Windu force crushing Greivous's lungs and the general then running off, IE: neither a showing of skill or speed for Windu, just force power.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganTrue, I wasnt concidering webbing him up as an option. Just saying id be helpfull. SM can web up the battlefield limiting Mace's movement or something of the sort. Anyway, what im saying is, while 2nd scenario is ridiculos 1st scenario is far FAR from stomp as a lot of people seem to believe.
I know but honestly that should be pis. especially considering the speed it normally operates at. here the thing even if we had webbing as fast as bullets it would not change how ineffective it would be. It won't distract mace at all. He can easily deflect it away with the force which is well within his ability to do and easily. It take more effort for spiderman to attempt to web him then it would for mace to deflect it. Not to mention mace would sense such an attack a mile away.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
both, the thread says no offensive force attacks, that completely defensive.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi😕
Wait Wait Wait... where is the evidence that Spider-Man is faster than Mace?Do you guys remember what Mace is shown doing during the Clone Wars.. He's dogging multiple laser blasts that are faster than Spidey's webbing.
Are we forgetting his fight with Sids... Anakin perceives them fighting a blur... it's as if sids was a dark mist he was moving so fast. Mace had no trouble dealing with this speed.
Grievous would be faster than Spidey and he got dealt with easily.
Where is this evidence spidey is faster or could get the jump on Mace?