Originally posted by SasuOnaLol what? Go read a Green Arrow comic please he's know for his insane agility Batman level agility
Neither of them are bullet timers like Bullseye,in a fight Bullseye is up there with damage soak and adamantium laced bones,and in scenario 1 hes going to have a field day with Green Arrow trying to hit him.Also Standard equip for Bullseye are knives,sai's are shuriken
Originally posted by iceman24567
Lol what? Go read a Green Arrow comic please he's know for his insane agility Batman level agility
Batman aim dodges bullets so you comparing Green Arrow to him is basically just admitting that hes only peak human.
MU hand book states that Bullseye and Daredevil have superhuman speed and agility which is why they are able to bullet time.
Bullseye's aim is better than both of theres anyway. Green Arrow shoots arrow at Lester, he catches it proceeds to kill Green arrow.
Deadshot isn't going to shoot Lester before he gets killed.
I'm more interested in how the 2nd scenario goes since Bullseye's damage soak is up there with his adamantium coated bones.
Originally posted by SasuOnaPretty sure Batman isnt just an aim dodger, but a bullet timer like DD, BE and others. Most of the batfamity is.
Batman aim dodges bullets so you comparing Green Arrow to him is basically just admitting that hes only peak human.MU hand book states that Bullseye and Daredevil have superhuman speed and agility which is why they are able to bullet time.
Bullseye's aim is better than both of theres anyway. Green Arrow shoots arrow at Lester, he catches it proceeds to kill Green arrow.
Deadshot isn't going to shoot Lester before he gets killed.I'm more interested in how the 2nd scenario goes since Bullseye's damage soak is up there with his adamantium coated bones.
Originally posted by SasuOnasuper speed, peak human speed.. in comix there's little difference. There's been a whole thread about it. Bullseye doesnt have "super speed", neither does Batgirl or Elektra or Cap or many others, yet they all dodge bullets after they were fired. Batman is not slower than Cap.
If batman were a bullet timer that would mean that he has super-human speed.
Hes only peek human so either hes aim dodging or its considered an outlier.Also no one in the bat family is a bullet timer except Cassandra, her feats are stacked at put her above all of them.
^^ I don't see where your going with this
I never said anyone had super speed
I said to bullet time that would require you to be superhuman. DC classifies Batman as a peek human character in all his attributes.
Based on this we know that any time he exhibits something akin to a superhuman we can call it an outlier.
Marvel however clearly labeled Daredevil and Bullseye as having superhuman agiliy and speed. So we know whenever they exhibit super-human abilities its not something that we can balk at in most cases.
Captain america can run a mile in about a minute so thats obviously superhuman and something batman is not capable of.
Green Arrow and Deadshot have their peak human attributes but saying that peak human in comics=Superhuman is too much off a leap in logic when we are constantly told otherwise.
Bullseye should be able to take scenario 1 but I see him having more trouble in scenario 2.
I'm going with a slight edge to Bullseye only because he seems to be slightly superhuman. Just for comparison's sake I'd put Bullseye at just a hair over Deadpool in a fight with a major split but Bullseye getting the slightest of edges. Deadpool has to do some pretty crazy and spectacle things when he beats Bullseye in the comics.
Originally posted by SasuOnaDaredevil and Bullseye were said to have superhuman speed? TBH its the first time I hear it. Pretty sure they were said to be peak humans.
^^ I don't see where your going with this
I never said anyone had super speed
I said to bullet time that would require you to be superhuman. DC classifies Batman as a peek human character in all his attributes.
Based on this we know that any time he exhibits something akin to a superhuman we can call it an outlier.Marvel however clearly labeled Daredevil and Bullseye as having superhuman agiliy and speed. So we know whenever they exhibit super-human abilities its not something that we can balk at in most cases.
Captain america can run a mile in about a minute so thats obviously superhuman and something batman is not capable of.
Green Arrow and Deadshot have their peak human attributes but saying that peak human in comics=Superhuman is too much off a leap in logic when we are constantly told otherwise.
Bullseye should be able to take scenario 1 but I see him having more trouble in scenario 2.
My point is - the line between low superhumans and peak humans is so small it isnt worth mentioning. See Cap can run a mile in a minute so he can be concidered a super human while Elektra who cuts bullets in half with her sais all the time shouldnt? That's my point. Batman or Elektra or any other peak human dodging bullets after they're fired instead of just dodging the aim isnt something out of line. Trained peak humans simply can do that in comix. You said Batman cant dodge bullets because that'd mean he's super human. But being able to dodge bullets doesnt define super human in comicbooks. So the speed difference between guys like Bullseye and Green Arrow (if there's any at all) could be tiny. The fact that one of them is said to be a low level "super human" and the other isnt makes little difference.