Originally posted by illadelph12
Well, if memory serves me correctly, Gedirath was mind controlled by Darkseid via tech, so he at least possibly has a brain or a mind which has proven to be vulnerable. Whether or not he's wholey organic does not dissuade the fact that given his size and issues with the perception of time passage Apocalypse can just teleport inside one of him and spend the rest of the battle looking for the best place to strike. Gedirath wouldn't be able to do a thing about it.As for scale, Apocalypse doesn't need to be able instantly destroy Gedirath's organs (assuming they exist), so whether or not he has the ability to one-shot a planet is irrelevent. He could morph into a giant drill and take 13+ months to perforate and go 'Death Blossom' on Gedirath's innards and still get the same end result as one-shotting a planet (and with the Giants time dialation issue, it would seem like only seconds have passed to Gedirath). It's analagous to Kratos vs. Cronos from from God of War 3, or Shadow of the Colossus.
The avenue of attack is open.
Originally posted by ParmaniacI'm not in high school.
He's your classmate
Yes it is
Originally posted by Omega VisionIt also sounds plausible. Just because hes big doesn't mean hes that strong.
Wow, that scenario sounds like something someone would make up if they really didn't want to admit a favored character loses. facepalm
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'm not in high school. It also sounds plausible. Just because hes big doesn't mean hes that strong.
He was strong enough to crush the Earth like a grape, that's what Darkseid sent him to do.
Originally posted by Omega VisionJust because they don't generally run that long doesn't mean they can't.
It's unrealistic. Generally forum battles don't run for hundreds of years which is how long it would take Apoc to do any significant damage to Geridath.He was strong enough to crush the Earth like a grape, that's what Darkseid sent him to do.
If he gets a hold of apoc hes dead.I will never deny that.But Delphs "in the ear" suggestion seems plausible.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Just because they don't generally run that long doesn't mean they can't.If he gets a hold of apoc hes dead.I will never deny that.But Delphs "in the ear" suggestion seems plausible.
I think he's watched Fantastic Voyage one too many times.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Wow, that scenario sounds like something someone would make up if they really didn't want to admit a favored character loses. facepalm
It's called being tactical.
You're fighting a giant that dwarfs planets. Why would you try the direct conventional approach?
The fact of the matter is that Gedirath's size is more a hindrance than an asset against someone fighting smart, and regardless of how long it would take, the avenue of attack I presented is viable. Wars can take years. I know for a fact if Superman were in this same scenario and I said "Superman flies inside Gedirath's ear, uses his heat vision, and systematically lobotomizes Gedirath over a 13 month period due to Gedirath's scale" people wouldn't bat an eye. Because it's Apocalypse, who can use the same avenue of attack, all of a sudden it's a dream scenario. How is Gedirath going to do anything to Apocalypse once he gets inside of his body? Apocalypse then has all the time in the world to do whatever it takes to disable Gedirath.
If it's good enough for Rodimus Prime vs. Unicron, it's good enough for Apocalypse.
Originally posted by Omega VisionAnd what if he is? He would have to have a brain or some sort of mind. So assuming he has ears it should work.And if not he has a mouth and nose.
It's making the assumption that Geridath is anything like a human when there's no such indication.I think he's watched Fantastic Voyage one too many times.
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Originally posted by illadelph12
It's called being tactical.You're fighting a giant that dwarfs planets. Why would you try the direct conventional approach?
The fact of the matter is that Gedirath's size is more a hindrance than an asset against someone fighting smart, and regardless of how long it would take, the avenue of attack I presented is viable. Wars can take years. I know for a fact if Superman were in this same scenario and I said "Superman flies inside Gedirath's ear, uses his heat vision, and systematically lobotomizes Gedirath over a 13 month period due to Gedirath's scale" people wouldn't bat an eye. Because it's Apocalypse, who can use the same avenue of attack, all of a sudden it's a dream scenario. How is Gedirath going to do anything to Apocalypse once he gets inside of his body? Apocalypse then has all the time in the world to do whatever it takes to disable Gedirath.
If it's good enough for Rodimus Prime vs. Unicron, it's good enough for Apocalypse.
If that avenue of attack were available it would have been considered by the New Gods. Geridath was DS's ultimate weapon for a reason.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's making the assumption that Geridath is anything like a human when there's no such indication.I think he's watched Fantastic Voyage one too many times.
It really doesn't matter. Apocalypse can compromise his head and kill him. Apocalypse is a techno-organic shape shifter and can morph into drilling equipment as well as numerous energy weapons. Plus he can increase his size. It may take a long time, but Apocalypse can destroy the Gedirath's head from the inside out.
Unless we're assuming Gedirath can survive being lobotomized.
Originally posted by illadelph12
It really doesn't matter. Apocalypse can compromise his head and kill him. Apocalypse is a techno-organic shape shifter and can morph into drilling equipment as well as numerous energy weapons. Plus he can increase his size. It may take a long time, but Apocalypse can destroy the Gedirath's head from the inside out.Unless we're assuming Gedirath can survive being lobotomized.
Assuming he has a humanoid internal physiology that can be exploited the way you suggest then consider that we should also assume he has an immune system. Given his size his lymphocytes would be bigger than aircraft carriers. So while Apoc is inside playing Cavity Creeps he has to deal with Geridath's immune system. Again this is assuming he has an internal physiology like a human.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Yeah.The reason being the plot of the story.
That's not in play here on KMC.
Originally posted by Omega VisionGood. Didn't actually think of that. But its also possible apoc>his cells
We don't know what his physiology is like, only that DS was able to take control of him with some kind of tech.Assuming he has a humanoid internal physiology that can be exploited the way you suggest then consider that we should also assume he has an immune system. Given his size his lymphocytes would be bigger than aircraft carriers. So while Apoc is inside playing Cavity Creeps he has to deal with Geridath's immune system. Again this is assuming he has an internal physiology like a human.
Yes, because this is completely cogent and totally addresses the gaps in your logic.
but if apoc was in his head he could just take a planet and smack his head into it killing apoc with the shockwave.
He has orifices leading to the interior of his head.
From a location inside his head, via said orifices, you destroy everything outward of your starting position until his head is gone or damaged irreparably, using whatever means you have available to you.
How is this a hard concept to follow, or wholly illogical?
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Good. Didn't actually think of that. But its also possible apoc>his cellsbut if apoc was in his head he could just take a planet and smack his head into it killing apoc with the shockwave.
Originally posted by illadelph12
He has orifices leading to the interior of his head.From a location inside his head, via said orifices, you destroy everything outward of your starting position until his head is gone or damaged irreparably, using whatever means you have available to you.
How is this a hard concept to follow, or wholly illogical?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
We don't know what his physiology is like, only that DS was able to take control of him with some kind of tech.Assuming he has a humanoid internal physiology that can be exploited the way you suggest then consider that we should also assume he has an immune system. Given his size his lymphocytes would be bigger than aircraft carriers. So while Apoc is inside playing Cavity Creeps he has to deal with Geridath's immune system. Again this is assuming he has an internal physiology like a human.
Yes, because this is completely cogent and totally addresses the gaps in your logic.
Apocalypse has the ability to raise forcefields, become intangible, and teleport himself and objects. He could simply teleport an incoming white blood cell away from himself, or likely blast it away.
If he doesn't have a humanoid physiology, you just destroy his inorganic head.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Apocalypse has the ability to raise forcefields, become intangible, and teleport himself and objects. He could simply teleport an incoming white blood cell away from himself, or likely blast it away.If he doesn't have a human physiology, you just destroy his inorganic head.
Which might not stop him, because he doesn't have a human physiology in that case and might be able to function without a head. doped
Would you argue that Apoc could destroy the Earth? Because Geridath's head is larger than the Earth.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
There are too many unknown variables to assume that an Apocalypse lobotomy is a viable tactic.It's not a hard concept, just stupid. Very stupid. Using your logic the Atom can beat anyone under Skyfather given enough time.
I disagree.
Also, The Atom doesn't have the offensive capabilities that Apocalypse does.