Spider-Man vs Blade

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You could say anything you'd like, doesn't mean it would be at all warranted. It would just be another statement to add to the long list of fairy tales and baseless theory crafting, you guys have polluted this thread with.

Originally posted by Badabing
Carver, you go though this thread you've polluted and get the nominations...or it's temp ban city for you. biscuits Colossus loses. 3D! 😂

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
thread pollution? :LAUGH: kindly look up any (Blade vs)threads and tell me who's responsible for this pollution...its you going above and beyond trying to prove your knowledge on blade and his comics and you trying to debunk facts staring you in the face...i wouldn't call you a troll if it were just a few (Blade vs) threads but no you're in all of them with your nonsensical ranting on how Blade is the weakest out of the marvel universe now thats a troll which you are now troll elsewhere

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm in all of the Blade Threads because I like Blade, and as a fan Blade I owe it to the character to make sure that when a handful stooges start spreading disinformation and lies, that it gets clarified.

I seriously think it is amusing that my motives are called into question because I speak up when you idiots start vomiting your distorted accounts of Blade's history.

Originally posted by Mindset
You're a great man, srank.

You both should be banned.

Originally posted by Mindset
You're a great man, srank.

why?whimper

we would keep you around

Originally posted by King Castle
i agree. he should be a mod, we both should 😮

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
yea right dude it took you like 20 mins to come up with that i also have never spread lies...unlike you stating blade had no HF whatsoever. pls quote me on telling lies about blades character to change tide of a fight you lying troll. you're really getting on my nerves now

I've said Blade has never healed on panel, and he never has. That is a fact. Until he does, his healing factor and it's theoretical effectiveness is of no relevant to a debate, so for all intensive purposes it does not exist. If you don't want to hear that stop bringing up his healing factor until there comes a time where he has actually used it. Pretty simple solution.

Originally posted by King Castle
if you had to place blade in a strength bracket what would it be using on panel feats?

also what strength class does the bio have him on?

also wanna point out that blade's strength class wont be a big issue with weapons.

Hard to gauge his strength on the comics alone.

His Bio lists him as 1 ton apparently, while Dracula is 4 tons. Bios can be very modest.

its the same excuse ppl give with gamora's healing factor saying she can take a gut shot or heart stab when its never shown to do so and the only one is her surviving being burned and taking days to heal..

and then you have ppl claiming its equal to wolverine's when her highest feat is not close to wolverine's.

Originally posted by Allankles
I would say ripping off a Vampire's head with one hand is a better strength feat than lifting some humanoid over his head, any hero can do that.

It's a mark of superstrength to kill a supernatural being by just yanking its head off with one arm.

He did drink Draconis blood first though, he was likely amped.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What I said is that there are more examples of Marvel Vampires shape shifting / flying / hypnotizing than their are healing. If healing is standard, then the rest are standard by extension as well.

Originally posted by King Castle
dracula turned a female who was the grand daughter of van helsing and she was able to shapeshift right off the bat.

then you got Baron blood.. shape shifting, hypnosis , flight, animal control weather manipulation.

Hannibal king: Regenerative healing factor
Superhuman strength and speed
Halted aging
Ability to turn into mist
Ability to transform into a werewolf
Flight

let's not forget about lilith dracula's daughter uber vamp.

energy and magic manipulation.

Varnea

shape shifter, weather manipulation, flight, hypnosis..

etc etc etc....... there are more if you doubt me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_%28Marvel_Comics%29

one dracula isn't a normal vampire nor is hannibal king (being changed by deacon frost made him special, stated in Nightstalkers/Midnight Sons) not only that but Hannibal King, like most other vampires, hasn't demonstrated any of those powers in the last 8 years.

Same goes for baron blood and varnae

just take that mods advice and block him...blade has done things where a HF would be necessary to heal at all from like him being drained of most of his blood then carrying on to fight but by his logic he didnt heal because there were no words on the page that said so...

Originally posted by Allankles
Yeah, but it takes superstrength to do that like your tearing cardboard. Lifting a large humanoid on the other hand, is something a non superhuman could do.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He did drink Draconis blood first though, he was likely amped.

Originally posted by Trackz
one dracula isn't a normal vampire nor is hannibal king (being changed by deacon frost made him special, stated in Nightstalkers/Midnight Sons) not only that but Hannibal King, like most other vampires, hasn't demonstrated any of those powers in the last 8 years.

Same goes for baron blood and varnae

which are the mystickos and the other sub species...

not the overwhelming representation of the vampires in the last 30 to 40 yrs which is an overwhelming established history.

you cant even call what marvel did a retcon of power lvls of vampires since all they did was create variations and sub species of them and not all originating from dracula.. even worse the more moderate versions of vamps blade faces arent even older then him..

Originally posted by Trackz
there aren't as of late, once again you won't find any cases of vampires demonstrating any of the abilities, while in most comics you'll see vampires taking ridiculous amounts of damage, heck thousands of vampires were healing from falling from orbit in MI:13. Your claim is false.

There isn't a statute of limitations on feats. If there hasn't been a retcon older feats matter just as much as newer ones.

Those vampire missiles didn't heal either. They tanked the damage / heat from the re-entry. And they were genetically engineered vampires fired out of a magic canon, which I'm fairly certain is a large factor in that equation.

Originally posted by King Castle
again your argument is based on what you consider is now the modern version of a vampire, correct?

which are the mystickos and the other sub species...

not the overwhelming representation of the vampires in the last 30 to 40 yrs which is an overwhelming established history.

you cant even call what marvel did a retcon of power lvls of vampires since all they did was create variations and sub species of them and not all originating from dracula.. even worse the more moderate versions of vamps blade faces arent even older then him..

it's based on the fact that if you read comics for the past 8 years, you won't find vampires demonstrating those arcane abilities, especially now that marvel has redone the vampire corner of the marvel universe and even Dracual's son is unable to turn into mist.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
There isn't a statute of limitations on feats. If there hasn't been a retcon older feats matter just as much as newer ones.

Those vampire missiles didn't heal either. They tanked the damage / heat from the re-entry. And they were genetically engineered vampires fired out of a magic canon, which I'm fairly certain is a large factor in that equation.

it was shown they healed after hitting the ground, we get a glimpse of spitfire healing her face back on after reentry.