King Kandy's Tourney: Draft 1 · Battlezone

Ambient MAJIN_OVERLORD

hmmm... Thought i remembered diff... Sorry..

Did he go up against Eon with or without Q band?

inimalist Junior Member

without, but he had Aleta with him

on panel she says the only way to beat him would be with their combined power

Ambient MAJIN_OVERLORD

Thought it was just Stakar that fought Eon, i remember him resisting Eons attacks but was not sure if he had the Q band at the time.. I dont have those comics anymore so u have to forgive me for this ?.. Thanks

inimalist Junior Member

ah, it was Kismet, not Aleta, Kismet being Starhawk's mother

anyways, scans or it didn't happen, so:

vs Keeper:

inimalist Junior Member

vs Eon?

I might not have the right fight though, as this is Era, not Eon, though Era says that he disposed of Eon long before GOTG would have begun. Let me know if there is another fight vs Eon, I'm just going through this stuff for the first time too.

Ambient MAJIN_OVERLORD

Thanks for the scan..

I retract my claim.. lols

inimalist Junior Member

Originally posted by King Kandy
Warkiller has been replaced by Apocalypse (Marvel).

I know he is a constant jobber, but wouldn't apoc's durability technically be above the limits? I might not be remembering correctly, but didn't he laugh off a yell from Black Bolt?

Ambient MAJIN_OVERLORD

A diff. fight.. It was when he resisted being turned into a child by Eon..

but i now think he had the Q band with him..

inimalist Junior Member

Originally posted by Ambient
A diff. fight.. It was when he resisted being turned into a child by Eon..

that actually happens immediatly before Starhawk is given the Q bands by Eon (technically Era). After he resists, Era says that he was only testing Starhawk, and as a reward, gives him the Q bands, which reveal to Starhawk that Quasar is his father.

Feat wise, imho, at best it is a plot device (if we ignore the on panel description of the attack as a test), though it might be a feat against mind control or possession based attacks, which are illegal in this tourney iirc

Ambient MAJIN_OVERLORD

Right this is why i retracted my claim regarding him.. Thanks again..

inimalist Junior Member

🙂 I'm nothing if not thorough

King Kandy Senior Member

Yeah, Starhawk is not really impressing me, he was about even with Surfer w/ the quantum bands, which are some of the most broken powers in marvel. Against Era he did shit all, which is more or less what you'd expect.

inimalist Junior Member

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah, Starhawk is not really impressing me

zing...

actually, any more thoughts on Vulcan or Apoc?

does the lack of appearances for Vulcan make him too hard to judge? I mean, manipulating Warlocks quantum magic should be way above the limit, no?

I wish I knew cosmics better... Warlock is higher than low hearld, ya?

King Kandy Senior Member

Can anyone post scans of the Warlock incident?

inimalist Junior Member

I got it, just give me a sec

I'll post that plus his black bolt and havock fights, so we see the upper and lower ranges...

I'll see what I can do about the gladiator/shiar guard fight as well

darthgoober Senior Member

It's ok inimalist, I got it(the Warlock thing at least)...

And I noticed something else while I was rounding those up. Notice how Warlock's face is a suspicios colot when he takes off? Well just a few issues later Warlock transforms into Magus. Then at some point shortly thereafter(I can't for the life of me remember when specifically) Magus reveals that when he altered the timeline he set it up so that he had actually been the Magus for weeks before he revealed himself, so Vulcan didn't just run off "Warlock"... he ran off Warlock/Magus 😐 .

inimalist Junior Member

GotG 13

notics, Vulcan has the jump on Warlock, as you will see in the next issue, has little effect, insinuating that Vulcan's natural energy manipulation abilities don't output enough to be even close to Warlock level

GotG 14

Warlock says point blank how powerful Vulcan is... I don't know if he is changing into Magus there? (he refers to himself as Warlock still, when he escapes from Vulcan's guard on the page immediatly after this) If so, Vulcan even hanging around with Magus would disqualify him. If not, it is probably arguable that Warlock was caught by surprise by Vulcan's energy manip. powers, and does get a stalemate (at least), though stalemating Warlock is a damn high end feat

King Kandy Senior Member

Yeah. I don't know what to make of the whole Magus/Warlock thing, except that if it WAS Magus in charge, he obviously wasn't going all out. That said, I see nothing Vulcan is doing that wouldn't be fine... for a high herald. But yes, he does seem quite powerful there, so this bears consideration for the low-herald tier. Now i'd like to see the black-bolt scans.

inimalist Junior Member

vs black bolt

black bolt isn`t using his voice powers, when he does, he is the clear winner, but Vulcan is completely capable of holding his own, if not getting the upper hand, otherwise

¸

some time passes (meaning there was a legitimate KO of Vulcan, then he recovered)

King Kandy Senior Member

Vulcan was practically stomping BB there. I'm going to give the pro-Vulcan side a chance to speak, but right now, that does seem like quite persuasive evidence for his banning.