Classic Kaine and Venom (Brock) vs. Wolverine and Sabretooth

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Classic Kaine and Venom (Brock) vs. Wolverine and Sabretooth

Kaine (Classic)
Venom (Brock)

vs.

Wolverine
Sabretooth

Standard Forum Rules.

Situation A. No Adamantium for Wolverine and Sabertooth
Situation B. Adamantium for Wolverine and Sabertooth

Classic Kaine could solo.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Classic Kaine could solo.

Even with Adamantium?

Kaine the brick spiderman brick clone who has seizures and visions in mid battle?

he gets killed the second he doses off and the burning touch wouldnt slow down sabe or logan, he just lose an arm.

now you got venom solo and test the syms ability to regenerate. it loses

Looks like we have a difference of opinion.....

Originally posted by King Castle
Kaine the brick spiderman brick clone who has seizures and visions in mid battle?

he gets killed the second he doses off and the burning touch wouldnt slow down sabe or logan, he just lose an arm.

now you got venom solo and test the syms ability to regenerate. it loses

So let me get this straight...your argument is he will have a seizure mid-fight and get gutted or get his arm taken off attempting to use his "Mark of Kaine"?

Originally posted by Lunacyde
Even with Adamantium?

Yes. He was essentially Spider-Man++.

Kaine's fighting style wouldnt benefit him against these guys he was more of a brick brawler.

Kaine was only really Superior in strength and tanking which is why he could out muscle spidey.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Classic Kaine could solo.

Originally posted by King Castle
Kaine's fighting style wouldnt benefit him against these guys he was more of a brick brawler.

Kaine was only really Superior in strength and tanking which is why he could out muscle spidey.

#1. I stipulated classic Kaine
#2. He's still faster and more agile than either of his opponents.
#3. This scan literally proves nothing, was there a point to posting it?

Originally posted by Lunacyde

#2. He's still faster and more agile than either of his opponents.

No he not, there no evidence to support this.

Originally posted by Lunacyde

#2. He's still faster and more agile than either of his opponents.
that is not a fact do not present it as such. it is just your opinion unless you like to clarify and show evidence of his speed being superior with history or panel evidence.

Speed blitzes Spider-Man.

3 hits and a grab is your evidence to claim he is by far superior to the team? 😬

by the way that isnt a speed blitz, or a lot of ppl have done it to the spider.drylaugh

also note those punches wouldnt phase either of them.

Originally posted by King Castle
3 hits and a grab is your evidence to claim he is by far superior to the team? 😬

by the way that isnt a speed blitz, or a lot of ppl have done it to the spider.drylaugh

also note those punches wouldnt face either of them.

Never said far superior, just said faster.

It shows him hitting him 5 times in succession without Spidey being able to react at all, that's a speed blitz. If you have scans of Wolverine or Sabretooth doing the same then by all means present them, if not then concede.

I'm not sure what you're saying. I'd assume you mean faze. You're sure 25 ton strength punches won't even faze Wolvie and Sabes? I realize they've tanked stronger, but not even faze them? Not even knock them down?

Originally posted by Lunacyde
Never said far superior, just said faster.

It shows him hitting him 5 times in succession without Spidey being able to react at all, that's a speed blitz. If you have scans of Wolverine or Sabretooth doing the same then by all means present them, if not then concede.

I'm not sure what you're saying. I'd assume you mean faze. You're sure 25 ton strength punches won't even faze Wolvie and Sabes? I realize they've tanked stronger, but not even faze them? Not even knock them down?

Spider-Man has taken it to Wolverine before. No reason why an enhanced version with a better Spider-Sense and lacking his morals can't.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Spider-Man has taken it to Wolverine before. No reason why an enhanced version with a better Spider-Sense and lacking his morals can't.

what do you mean by take it to wolverine? He never come closes to KO wolverine ever.

Kaine only has strength and endurance over the spider he doesnt use agility nor webs or have spidey sense which gives the spider a better chance against many other heroes.

what's kaine going to do punch and grab slam, that isnt enough to put the team down and puts them in close to the claws.
also spidey hasnt won a single fight against logan one on one.
but, go ahead reference the secret war one.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9273/mpc3gh8.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1567/mcfarlaneyp6.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5455/fallensonspidey2hf2.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4098/fallensonspidey3kf8.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/235/781531114956336ob2.jpg

sabe
http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/stalkslogan.jpg
http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/wasteswolverine3.jpg

Originally posted by King Castle
Kaine only has strength and endurance over the spider he doesnt use agility nor webs or have spidey sense which gives the spider a better chance against many other heroes.

what's kaine going to do punch and grab slam, that isnt enough to put the team down and puts them in close to the claws.
also spidey hasnt won a single fight against logan one on one.
but, go ahead reference the secret war one.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9273/mpc3gh8.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1567/mcfarlaneyp6.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5455/fallensonspidey2hf2.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4098/fallensonspidey3kf8.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/235/781531114956336ob2.jpg

sabe
http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/stalkslogan.jpg
http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/wasteswolverine3.jpg

#1. You didn't post a single scan that matters to this battle.
I see one that looks like fan art, and all he does is land a single kick on Spidey. One that doesn't show the situation just that Wolverine had him by the throat. Another two that show Spidey socking Wolverine and Wolverine tackling him. The we see one where Pete basically says he is faster than Wolverine and proves it by dodging him. Then we have scans of your one fighter fighting the other.
#2. His Spider-sense is more evolved giving him precog.
#3. His Sting of Kaine and Corrosive Touch will do damage.

damage that they would ignore and keep fighting.... they arent whiny parker they dont go into shock in battle nor fear.

kaines spider sense which gives him precog isnt useful in battle since it gives him vision of the probable future not forewarning to an attack.. and advantage spidey has that gain does not have in battle.

those scans are canon, this aint some other site where the fanart cry is the end all of argument.

those scans are to show how fast logan can counter even when struck same as how kaine ignored spider's punch to grab spidey. to similar lvl of speed difference is kaine grabs, logan pops the claws in his face to intimate not to kill him.

what scan's of kaine to you have? lets see them.

this is why kaine would lose an arm.