Originally posted by Philosophía
Then what, Wonderman can break Kyle's constructs? We didn't need JLA/Avengers to tell us that. Kyle's constructs have been broken by beings on Wonderman's level before.Also, we don't ignore JLA/Avengers due to something you, or anybody else disagree with - the same way we don't ignore feats in Identity Crisis due to Deathstroke beating Kyle by grabbing his fist or beating Wally by having him run into his sword.
In short, quiet.
GL was helpless against Wonderman...don't even understand why you are disputing this. If it wasn't for Superman, GL would have lost.
Originally posted by carver9
GL was helpless against Wonderman...don't even understand why you are disputing this. If it wasn't for Superman, GL would have lost.
Uh, Phil's not disputing it lol
He's outright saying that guys on Simon's level can and have broken Kyle's constructs. Obviously, Kyle's high end feats are something else, but Wonder Man breaking GL constructs ain't all that crazy to begin with.
Originally posted by PhilosophÃ_a
Who's disputing this?Are you in a windowless room with no oxygen, again?
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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Uh, Phil's not disputing it lolHe's outright saying that guys on Simon's level can and have broken Kyle's constructs. Obviously, Kyle's high end feats are something else, but Wonder Man breaking GL constructs ain't all that crazy to begin with.
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Aaaahhhh, he not only broke his constuct, he TANKED a blast from him and was crumbling his shield with punches. It's clear who was overwhelming who during that fight.
Originally posted by carver9
Aaaahhhh, he not only broke his constuct, he TANKED a blast from him and was crumbling his shield with punches. It's clear who was overwhelming who during that fight.
You act like Simon having some really decent feats is some kind of phenomenon. Heck, read Busiek era Avengers and you'll see that more often than not, Simon was only a step or two below Thor in the power department.
Not only that, but GLs having issues with powerful bricks isn't all that crazy, either.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You act like Simon having some really decent feats is some kind of phenomenon. Heck, read Busiek era Avengers and you'll see that more often than not, Simon was only a step or two below Thor in the power department.Not only that, but GLs having issues with powerful bricks isn't all that crazy, either.
I understand that...I'm not saying Ionic Wonderman is weak, what I am saying is, he was casually stomping a high Herald...with ease, while brushing through his attacks. That's different than having a decent showing, that puts Simon above one of the premier Heralds in DC.
Originally posted by Philosophíalolwut
There's a difference between "Thor and Wonder Woman are physical peers" and "Wonder Woman is physically as formidable as Thor wielding Mjolnir".As close as the fight between Superman and Thor appeared, the strength edge Superman displayed at the end when he caught Mjolnir is hard to match in terms of strength edge Superman displayed over Wonder Woman in any of their fights. The closest it came, was when Superman was out of his mind due to Circe after OWAW and he nearly snapped her arms [due to her own words, at least] or in Sacrifice when he broke her wrist by squeezing.
Also, high-metas? lol
Count Nefaria barehanding Mjolnir strike ring a bell?
Still on this crossover... smh
Well fck it then since one showing puts your over somebody. Words of carver 😄 namor beat hulks he's better. Spiderman beat hulk he's better. Batman beat hulk he's better. BP put the arm bar of Christ on sliver surfer he's better. Thanos had a physical fight with Odin and held his own but hulk got ass rapes by the all mighty Z so thanos physically is better then hulk. Batman beat spawn he's better. Etc etc
Originally posted by dmills
Word. Kind of a problem for the "Avengers/JLA is cannon" crowd. I've read from some that Thor is closer to Wonder Woman then he is to Superman's level. So the obvious issue is, if that's the case, then it means a fight with wonder woman would be so physically taxing to Superman, that it would leave him utterly exposed and vulnerable enough for a few high metas to gang rape him into oblivion 😱That's usually the result of two relative equals going at it with all they have (ie Blue Marvel and Sentry). Not of someone who is on another level altogether fighting someone who is demonstratively beneath them...
Superman took the same blast and Simon punching him to go down and then Thor's equal in strength Hercules was hitting him so hard that his adamantine mace was breaking, simon, she-hulk, vision and Iron man were punching him. Guess what, he got up at the same time as Thor after that severe beating. That showing firmly established that Superman>>Thor physically.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Who said he was taxed and vulnerable? His speech was in broken words from in between the fight. Also LOL @ high metas. Iron man oneshotted both Wonder Woman and Kyle Rayner because he was greatly amped by a mother box.Superman took the same blast and Simon punching him to go down and then Thor's equal in strength Hercules was hitting him so hard that his adamantine mace was breaking, simon, she-hulk, vision and Iron man were punching him. Guess what, he got up at the same time as Thor after that severe beating. That showing firmly established that Superman>>Thor physically.
Originally posted by -Pr-See.
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Guys, no more JLA Avengers, please.