Rikudo Sennin VS Gol D. Roger

Rikudo Sennin,

The founder of the ninja world in Naruto who single-handedly defeated the Ten-Tailed Beast.

On his deathbed, he used a chunk of the Earth's crust (Chibaku Tensei) to seal the Ten-Tailed Beast's body, thus creating the moon.

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Gol D. Roger,

The strongest pirate that ever lived in One Piece.
During his lifetime, his skill and strength is virtually unmatched.
He has mastered all forms of Haki, and uses it with great ease. His Haki is believed to be strong enough to knock down even the strongest of men.

Revered as "The Pirate King", he is believed to have a bounty of 1 billion Beri, and owns the legendary treasure, One Piece.

While Roger is indeed the shit......we've not seen him do anything(have we)?

But we know that Rikudo beat the original tailed beast, and the 10 tails is supposed to be vastly superior to all his weaker counterparts, including the 9 tails. Plus the guy made the moon, and he looks like a demon...so extra points for him.

Warping off a huge chunk of the entire planet is a pretty good feat.

Rikudo Sennin apparently made the moon with Chibaku Tensei.

That is a vastly greater feat to anything Gol has been implied to be capable of.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Rikudo Sennin apparently made the moon with Chibaku Tensei.

That is a vastly greater feat to anything Gol has been implied to be capable of.

im answering, not enough info, on either of them

Originally posted by NemeBro
Rikudo Sennin apparently made the moon with Chibaku Tensei.

That is a vastly greater feat to anything Gol has been implied to be capable of.

Gol's moustache is a bigger feat than the moon uhuh

We also know Rikudo has a perfect Izanagi, which turns illusion real so he can take 'fatal' blows and be just fine as he basically re-writes things into not being killed.

Roger and Whitebeard were pretty close in power, so I'd say Rikudo wins.

Isn't Izanagi only available to the Sharingan? I thought Sharingan/Byakugan were derived from the Rinnegan, was it shown using their abilities? Cuz Pein should've been much more deadly if the rinnegan could use them.

Originally posted by Q99
Roger and Whitebeard were pretty close in power, so I'd say Rikudo wins.

Originally posted by KingD19
Isn't Izanagi only available to the Sharingan? I thought Sharingan/Byakugan were derived from the Rinnegan, was it shown using their abilities? Cuz Pein should've been much more deadly if the rinnegan could use them.

Pain didn't have it, but the Izanagi is basically a jutsu made by combining Uchiha and Senju power, which both came from the sage. With just a sharingan, it lasts a brief moment. Sharingan and some implanted cells like Danzo had, about a minute. Madara had apparently integrated Hashirama's power better as well as having stronger eyes, and could do at least five minutes.

As mastery and power improves, both time and what can be done with it increase too.

Izanagi was what the Sage used to split the 10-tails into the 9 Biju according to Madara.

Oh yeah, that's a good point. Rikudo has eternal eyes and 10 tails has endless chakra, he can use Izanagi forever without burning out.

Presumably there's some limit, but it should still be sick-powerful.

I don't see why there needs to be a limit... Rikudo pretty much went unchallenged during his lifespan. Even the ten tail was dispatched with what sounds like relative ease.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't see why there needs to be a limit... Rikudo pretty much went unchallenged during his lifespan. Even the ten tail was dispatched with what sounds like relative ease.

He still has a human body and mind. No matter how strong he is, channeling enough chakra takes effort, so while his limits were certainly higher than anyone else's, there should still be some, distant from the norm though they are.

We only know that he did the 10-tails thing, not how easy it was.

Wasn't it stated he was not powerful enough to defeat the Ten Tails, only seal it? Kinda like with the Fourth?

It doesn't say that, though it can reasonably be surmised that he found that the best way of defeating it. Bijuu cannot be permanently destroyed, that we know of, so he could have just been trying to take a long term approach. In any case, it's not like he needed to sacrifice himself to seal it, so it definitely counts as a win. And afterwords, he had the ten-tail's chakra, which made him even stronger.

Originally posted by Q99
He still has a human body and mind. No matter how strong he is, channeling enough chakra takes effort, so while his limits were certainly higher than anyone else's, there should still be some, distant from the norm though they are.

We only know that he did the 10-tails thing, not how easy it was.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v50/c467/15.html

Note how Madara dismisses the sage having human limits while a jinchiruki.

Gol D. Roger blitzes 😖hifty:

Originally posted by King Kandy
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v50/c467/15.html

Note how Madara dismisses the sage having human limits while a jinchiruki.

He says he's beyond what they would consider human, not that he has no limits to his jutsu at all.

Originally posted by Q99
He says he's beyond what they would consider human, not that he has no limits to his jutsu at all.