Originally posted by Coco292
Faster than humans? no doubt but I'm willing to bet that Luffy speed blitz just about everyone in Naruto.
I mean, way way faster than humans. Hundred of MPH easy, even for characters not known for speed, near mach to mach speed in some cases.
Gear 2 Luffy is I think faster than almost everyone (though the gate users and Minato may be up there), but the normal non-special technique running speed people have isn't all that high.
Consider how much we see them running around- to and from the auction house, to get to the Marineford execution scaffold, and so on. They're fast, but on foot they don't travel all that fast.
Originally posted by Bentley
Yeah, surely Minato is faster than Goku because Goku runs slowly ermm
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Goku's got some impressive travel feats and I definitely wouldn't compare Naruto characters to DBZ characters, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
Naruto's characters cover ground at a rate equal if not faster than OP's, so, movement speed wise (which is separate from attack speed/reflex speed), they measure up pretty well to OP. DB leaves them both in the dust.
Originally posted by Q99
?Goku's got some impressive travel feats and I definitely wouldn't compare Naruto characters to DBZ characters, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
Naruto's characters cover ground at a rate equal if not faster than OP's, so, movement speed wise (which is separate from attack speed/reflex speed), they measure up pretty well to OP. DB leaves them both in the dust.
I think his point was that just because they aren't as fast movement wise doesnt mean they can't blitz him due to combat speed.
Originally posted by Coco292
But that's irrelivant because Luffy doesn't use gear 2nd while walking ,going by feats Luffy is at least supersonic but him walking from point a to point b certainly doesnt show that.
Gear 2 is a limited-duration feat that's Luffy specific, though. Whitebeard, Mihawk, plenty of people stronger than him don't have something specific.
Also, similarly, there's the Inner Gates and the like on the Naruto side, which provide temporary supersonic speed as well.
I do not think there is a big enough speed gap to constitute a 'blitz' in any case.
Aokiji was able to leap hundreds of feet in the air to freeze two tsunamis that were towering over Marineford in what seemed like instantaneous. He did this nonchalantly while in a sitting position...
Kizaru can travel as a beam or laser and has impressive combat speed. As does Enel. Another is Kuma who can propel himself in a blink of an eye they mistook it as teleportation...
OP and even Bleach both leave Naruto in the dust when it comes to speed IMO...
as for the fight, I would say the Sage, atleast the dude has feat/s...
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
Aokiji was able to leap hundreds of feet in the air to freeze two tsunamis that were towering over Marineford in what seemed like instantaneous. He did this nonchalantly while in a sitting position...Kizaru can travel as a beam or laser and has impressive combat speed. As does Enel. Another is Kuma who can propel himself in a blink of an eye they mistook it as teleportation...
OP and even Bleach both leave Naruto in the dust when it comes to speed IMO...
as for the fight, I would say the Sage, atleast the dude has feat/s...
those feats are?
Not to mention sealing the Jyuubi itself. For a creature that powerful, his mastery of jutsu must have been insane. I mean, other seals we've seen either relied on inanimate objects with enchantments of their own, or cost the user's life w/ death god summon. Sage just used pure power and absorbed the thing.
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
Aokiji was able to leap hundreds of feet in the air to freeze two tsunamis that were towering over Marineford in what seemed like instantaneous. He did this nonchalantly while in a sitting position...
Ok. Sakura's lept hundreds of feet from a crouching position. During the Kabuto/Orochimaru bridge meeting. Yamato made a hand signal and she, Sai, and Naruto lept from way back behind cover to halfway across a very long bridge in a moment.
Tsunade was able to leap hundred of feet into the air very quickly to do the Manda-stab with a giant sword, and she's both not noted for her speed and was carrying an incredible weight at the same time.
Kizaru can travel as a beam or laser and has impressive combat speed. As does Enel. Another is Kuma who can propel himself in a blink of an eye they mistook it as teleportation...
Those are specific unique-to-them abilities though. Similarly Minato has his teleportation.
OP and even Bleach both leave Naruto in the dust when it comes to speed IMO...
I think Naruto's shown pretty darn good travel speed when compared to OP.
Though doesn't Bleach have character zipping from the center of the multi-kilometer across city dome to outside it entirely? They might be the fastest of the lot.