Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Wolverine's regressed many times. He's lost control many times. While that arguably serves to heighten his physical ferocity and compliments his fighting style, it doesn't help focus his will. And I somehow doubt that his personal resolution at the very end of Wolverine: Origins is going to reverse that trend anytime soon. Even though it should. That doesn't make sense at all.
Yes it does.
Batman did this feat. However time traveling members of the League changed the past so that this future was wiped out. In a sense it never happened because it was erased by altering events in the time stream, but these events still transpired before being changed.
@ Castleking....he states specifically that 4 of those years he was in Desaad's Psychofuge which subjected Bruce to the pain of all of Desaad's victims....ever.
Originally posted by LunacydeA Batman... that isn't the current Batman.
Yes it does.Batman did this feat. However time traveling members of the League changed the past so that this future was wiped out. In a sense it never happened because it was erased by altering events in the time stream, but these events still transpired before being changed.
Accordingly, the current Batman never did it.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
A Batman... that isn't the current Batman.Accordingly, the current Batman never did it.
It's from a canon story. That is normal continuity Bruce Wayne, just the events that transpired ended up being changed by alteration in the time stream before that point. Bruce did that feat, it was only changed after the fact.
It's like if Dr. Doom went back in time and made it so that Reed Richards was never born. Would that negate all feats Reed has ever accomplished during his life? No.
Originally posted by Lunacyde... current Batman never went through any of that. This is not hard. Same way Wolverine never went through being killed by a Sentinel blast in Days of Future Past. Same way Thor never beat Hulk and Thing solo in The Reigning. An alternate Bruce that never existed and who is not current Bruce did that feat.
It's from a canon story. That is normal continuity Bruce Wayne, just the events that transpired ended up being changed by alteration in the time stream before that point. Bruce did that feat, it was only changed after the fact.It's like if Dr. Doom went back in time and made it so that Reed Richards was never born. Would that negate all feats Reed has ever accomplished during his life? No.
If you wanted to use the Reed that got erased from continuity and specified that was the Reed in the thread, then you could use that Reed's feats. Otherwise, no. We're not using the alternate Batman from Rock of Ages that doesn't exist in current continuity here.
^ You mean like current Wolverine and the Wolverine who died from a single Sentinel blast are the same character? Except they're completely not?
Current Batman never went through those events. Because the timeline didn't happen to him. This isn't a difficult notion. When you want to use Rock of Ages Batman in a thread, then you can bring up his feats. We're dealing with current Batman here.
Originally posted by Lunacyde
Overwhelm Batman with Willpower? LOL Did you read my feat above?No one her has said Wolverine isn't a good tactician, they just say Batman is better, and he is Ras Al Ghul has more experience than Batman too, in fact more than Wolverine as well, doesn't stop batman from beating him. Heck many people Batman beats are more experienced. Vandal Savage, and numerous others. Also Wolverine having more experience matters even less because they both have relatively the same amount of experience with the GL ring which is the main aspect of this battle.
Actually Ras doesn't.. Wolverine's a reincarnating warrior spirit who's been alive since the ice age... 😕
Are they more experienced than angels? Cause.. well....