oh and let's not forget The Music Man... I used to like it but when I was in 6th grade or so my stupid choir teacher made us watch it and she kept forgetting where we left off the last class period so we'd end up starting half an hour before where we ended every day... So I've practically seen the whole movie four or five times now...
Originally posted by forumcrew
well i grew up on the comic and cartoon some so i just thought the movie was crap.. same as x-men and other marvel things they are ruining..although i will admit the 2nd looks much better, and X2 was an improvement... so maybe it just takes them a few tries
Forumcrew you are too cool.I totally agree with you,hollywood is ruining marvel comic films these days such as xmen with all these stupid changes they make. and for that poster that said they got to modernize it.Oh please,thats no excuse for those stupid changes they have made in comicbook films in recent years. 🙄
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Well, I'll do you one better and and admit that I grew up on the live action television Spider Man shows, both NBC and on "The Electric Company". 😉What was wrong with X Men the movie? Brain Singer is godly for his adaptation. It was almost flawless, and alot of others would agree.
They have to modernize these movies in order to get mainstream audiences to watch them to begin with. Everyone cries foul when Hollywood shits out remakes, but when an original movie based on a comic book makes it big, they still aren't satisfied.
C'mon people.. 😛
x-men flawles.. they changed characters... they made rogue a child and a baby.. pretty much turned her into jubile.. especially with the Logan fixation. I dont really like that they had to change their costumes.. dont see a point in that.. and now their going to the pheonix already!? theres no way there doing the hole thing in space... oh and wolveriene not having a big connection with saber tooth? theres many more.. this movie was more flawed the spiderman was
Originally posted by forumcrew
I dont really like that they had to change their costumes.. dont see a point in that.. and now their going to the pheonix already!? theres no way there doing the hole thing in space... oh and wolveriene not having a big connection with saber tooth? theres many more.. this movie was more flawed the spiderman was
Well, Rogue was 18 in "X Men", I wouldn't consider her to be a "baby", personally. As for changing their costumes, I'll address it both here and below respectively. It's the 21st century. Tight blue spandex with "X" medallions, and black and yellow spandex is NOT going to cut it. Don't you remember Cyclops rib to Wolverine on the X Jet on Liberty Island? In order for people to take notice, it has to be modernized. This isn't the 1960's version of X Men, it's the new millenium, faster, sexier X Men.
I'm not familiar with the Phoenix Saga, so I won't touch it. What did you mean by Wolverine not having a big connection with Sabretooth? They can't waste time building everyones backstory when you have an ensamble cast of literally 10's of important characters. Singer played up the most important stories, and enough so to build the tension of the whole movie.
and for that poster that said they got to modernize it.Oh please,thats no excuse for those stupid changes they have made in comicbook films in recent years.
Read above, and yes, it is. Riddle me this, you want to see "Blade" based on his original comic book appearances!?!
HELL NO..and neither does anyone else! Why? Because it's DATED, it's UNAPPEALING, it's visually BORING.
Brian Singer is a big X Men fan, and from what I know about the series, he is doing it justice. It's smart, funny, adventurous, and alot of fun to watch.
Keep in mind, if Stan Lee didn't think that Sam Raimi and Brian Singer wouldn't do his brainchildren and his adoring fans justice with their work, I don't think he'd sign away for these adaptations.
Yeah I hear you Claidisa.Glad to hear there are other people out there who feel the same way as I do.When that movie first came out when I was a kid,everywhere I went,all I heard was people talking about how great and touching of a story it was.After seeing it I could not believe what I was hearing.I just cant figure how anybody can get so emotional about a fake puppet which is all E.T. is and I am a guy who normally finds things in movies and tv shows touching and get more emotional over things than most people do.I think they must have totaled the box office figures wrong back then saying it made more money than Star Wars like they did,no way could it have done that because that movie doesnt have the same following and anywhere near as much of a fan base as Star wars still does today.naw they screwed up the box office totals back then somehow.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Well, Rogue was 18 in "X Men", I wouldn't consider her to be a "baby", personally. As for changing their costumes, I'll address it both here and below respectively. It's the 21st century. Tight blue spandex with "X" medallions, and black and yellow spandex is NOT going to cut it. Don't you remember Cyclops rib to Wolverine on the X Jet on Liberty Island? In order for people to take notice, it has to be modernized. This isn't the 1960's version of X Men, it's the new millenium, faster, sexier X Men.I'm not familiar with the Phoenix Saga, so I won't touch it. What did you mean by Wolverine not having a big connection with Sabretooth? They can't waste time building everyones backstory when you have an ensamble cast of literally 10's of important characters. Singer played up the most important stories, and enough so to build the tension of the whole movie.
Read above, and yes, it is. Riddle me this, you want to see "Blade" based on his original comic book appearances!?!
[B]HELL NO..and neither does anyone else!
Why? Because it's DATED, it's UNAPPEALING, it's visually BORING.Brian Singer is a big X Men fan, and from what I know about the series, he is doing it justice. It's smart, funny, adventurous, and alot of fun to watch.
Keep in mind, if Stan Lee didn't think that Sam Raimi and Brian Singer wouldn't do his brainchildren and his adoring fans justice with their work, I don't think he'd sign away for these adaptations. [/B]
Rogue hardly looked like and adult though like she is in the comics,thats a major beef that many Xmen fans had with this movie was there was no reason for her to be so young. 😠 Like he said so well,it was pretty much a jubile fascination thing. Just because you dont think their costumes from the comics wont cut it,doesnt mean they wont.For people to take notice it has to be modernized? not hardly.Their costumes are fine the way they are,dont mess with tradition. 😠 wolvie not wearing a mask was a reasonable change,those changes he just mentione and pointed out,were NOT reasonable changes. visually boring,unappealing,dated? please give me a break.these are superheros we are talking about,they are suppose to have skin tight out fits. 🙄
you also need to keep in mind that Marvel sold their rights to these studios to make those films and that Stan Lee has no say so in the matter whatsoever in how these studios make the movies. flawless? hardly.those movies were HUGELY flawed,
Originally posted by CinemaddictionRead above, and yes, it is. Riddle me this, you want to see "Blade" based on his original comic book appearances!?!
You guys may not care about Daredevil but could you imagine how gay it would have been if Bullseye looked the way he was suppose to? Come on, a bad guy in blue tights?
Originally posted by Myth
You guys may not care about Daredevil but could you imagine how gay it would have been if Bullseye looked the way he was suppose to? Come on, a bad guy in blue tights?
That's my point, you won't see Daredevil in some goddamn banana yellow body suit with beady red eyes.
Just because you dont think their costumes from the comics wont cut it,doesnt mean they wont.you also need to keep in mind that Marvel sold their rights to these studios to make those films and that Stan Lee has no say so in the matter whatsoever in how these studios make the movies. flawless? hardly.those movies were HUGELY flawed,
Honestly, in the year 2004, the 21st century, do you think people want to see this...
or this..
Obviously what your totally failing to realize is by making these "mutants" more human, people in general can identify with them. I would have assumed you would have already known this? It's pretty much what the catalyst for the entire X Men saga; equality.
Like I said, these brightly colored sissy body suits don't fly in todays movie society. That's better left for comic books. Tradition doesn't bring audiences in, modernization for the general public does.
When I say "sign off", I mean that Stan Lee wouldn't have given his approval, which I am POSITIVE both directors did before submitting it, since he knows best.
Lastly, don't confuse "flaws" with something that was done different on purpose. Something are bound to get lost in translation, and some things are going to be better adapted to flow with a mainstream motion picture. Don't get the two mixed, because there can't be any critical flaws unless they set out to do everything according the original in the first place, which they did NOT.
first off if your not familiar with phoenix you dont have a past with
x-men so you dont get this arguement.. they could have kept similar costumes.. they did for spiderman.. and the most important stories? wolveriene and sabertooth is one of the most important x-men story lines or comic book story lines of that matter.. and bottom line they ruined Rogue.. and missing Beast and Gambit... then adding in the little tidbits about them.. Beast is an original ****in X-men Brian Singer did a good job making a modern version based on some of the characters so kids could like a movie similar to the old X-men.. he did a Half ass job making a good X-MEN movie..
I agree that they should keep important stories together but at the same time they won't merge well onto the big screen. Phoenix was bad ass and I can't wait to see her in the movie but it would obviously be stupid as hell for them to do the whole space thing. I'm keeping my stance on the uniforms though. Seriously, do you know what the comic book Bullseye looked like? *shudders*. Hell, I didn't like the Spider-man costume either. I thought the movie needed darkened up a bit and it would have been cool if Spidy wore his navy outfit.
Originally posted by forumcrewThe thing I hate about comic book fans is that they can never enjoy the movies...even if it's REALLY good, like X-Men was. They spend to much time picking it apart for not 100% adhereing to the comic book, which is rarely a bad thing anyway.
first off if your not familiar with phoenix you dont have a past with
x-men so you dont get this arguement.. they could have kept similar costumes.. they did for spiderman.. and the most important stories? wolveriene and sabertooth is one of the most important x-men story lines or comic book story lines of that matter.. and bottom line they ruined Rogue.. and missing Beast and Gambit... then adding in the little tidbits about them.. Beast is an original ****in X-men Brian Singer did a good job making a modern version based on some of the characters so kids could like a movie similar to the old X-men.. he did a Half ass job making a good X-MEN movie..