Dr Doom and Lex Luthor VS Superman

Originally posted by -Pr-
if they had never met before, i would say considerable. the problem is familiarity. superman has fought lex enough times to know what the suit is capable of, and while lex might score a hit or two, superman is not going to willingly take hits from kryptonite energy blasts like he would a punch from grundy.

besides, i always considered lex better when he wasn't using the suit. he's more of a threat imo.

If it's Doom/Luthor v. Superman, it'll go like this:

Doom and Lex will work together in some crazed fashion against Superman that totally seems like a "Two Kings Ruling the World" sort of scenario, laying the dual tech of the good genius', plus the large destructive magic power of Doom sort of beatdown on a Superman who really didn't see it coming from that side. (I'm pretty sure most people who see a man in a technology derived suit do not expect near Sorcerer Supreme magic), and just as Luthor is about to give the killing blow, Doom shoves his hand through Lex's chest, tosses him aside, and tells Superman,

"Know this, last son of Krypton, it is Doom who gives you your life in continuance today, not fate, not strength, and not you. Remember this, and know next time when Doom wants you dead, he'll know exactly how, and your pain will be immeasurable." Then he'll fly off to make an extremely overdone complicated plan which can all be totally derailed by people just standing in the wrong place to show his vast superiority and express the point Doom needs no partners, as Doom has no equals.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Something tells me the familiarity problem swings both ways. But I can't recall offhand the details of each fight battlesuit Lex has had with Superman to impress the idea further.

it does swing both ways (heh). look at lex during the "last son" arc.

i just think it hinders lex more than it does superman.

Originally posted by -Pr-
it does swing both ways (heh). look at lex during the "last son" arc.

i just think it hinders lex more than it does superman.

Lois ain't around to bonk Lex in the back of the head with an icicle.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Sorry, I wasn't aware that the last chapter of Last Son was published yet. I gave up after the first 11 months... 😐

Lois ain't around to bonk Lex in the back of the head with an icicle.

it was in the annual lol.

^ I know, that's where I got the Lois bonking Lex in the head with an icicle thing from. I was making fun of it's long delay. Thanks for ruining the punchline. crackers

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I know, that's where I got the Lois bonking Lex in the head with an icicle thing from. I was making fun of it's long delay. Thanks for ruining the punchline. crackers

🙁

i honestly haven't read it in a while.

Doom doesn't need lex's help to beat supes.

Originally posted by Bentley
Beh, not straight battles, plot devices all around and here I never claimed Doom isn't amazing with prep, he is. There isn't any prep here though.

le fay was straight IIRC

Originally posted by -Pr-

With Doom there they can win (and will most definitely take some if not the majority), but it's not going to be 10/10. Not nearly.

this

Originally posted by Warlord
le fay was straight IIRC

Certainly it wasn't as if he fully prepped against her, but Lefay, being a prepper like she is, and Doom being aware of her from a while cannot be fully accounted as a non-prepped combat. I think it's not downplaying Doom to think him capable of having a plan in case his association with Lefay went sour.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Hasn't Lex fought Superman straight-up with his battle-suit? This makes no sense. Superman ain't no Sentry. Also, let me know where in the OP, Doom is fending off Wonderman, Ares, Wasp, Spiderwoman, etc. and is distracted. Because the first time Sentry bumrushed Doom, Doom messed Sentry up with his magic and was asked to relent by Stark. I don't think Superman is going to fare any better with that spell or have Tony Stark around to stop him. Lex has no chance against Superman in his suit? That sounds dumb.

of coarse superman aint no sentry hes 10 times the fighter and combatant sentry is.

With prep supes is toast without supes makes short work of the 2.

Sentry > supes

shit > Supes

Originally posted by Parmaniac
shit > Supes

Imo most high herald levelers should be able to take on this team without much problem, the only real argument for they to take on Supes is heavy weakness exploitation.

Originally posted by Mindset
Sentry > supes

Not because he is that much more powerful but because he is not an easily deceived & controlled schizo drug addict.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
shit > Supes

Originally posted by quanchi112
Agreed.

Dude, you've been here long enough to know pointless character bashing is spamming and trolling. Refrain to do so in the future or just put it in your signature if you really need to share it that much.

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Did you see? I called Quan dude and went mad-mod at him 😏

Originally posted by Bentley
Dude, you've been here long enough to know pointless character bashing is spamming and trolling. Refrain to do so in the future or just put it in your signature if you really need to share it that much.

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Did you see? I called Quan dude and went mad-mod at him 😏