Originally posted by Oneness
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This is far from the only vaguely spiritualistic belief that can be succinctly refuted with that line. But it applies especially to dream interpretation. I consider dream interpretation to be on the same level as astrology in terms of validity. And anyone who knows me will know what that says about my thoughts.
Originally posted by Digi
This is far from the only vaguely spiritualistic belief that can be succinctly refuted with that line. But it applies especially to dream interpretation. I consider dream interpretation to be on the same level as astrology in terms of validity.
What a mouthful. Yes, a lot about "The Yoga" is based on pre-Darwinistic misconceptions about the nature of the dream state of sleep. REM off and on what, about 5 times per night?
It's easiest to remember the first cycle REM experienced per night as well, which is interesting. You'd think your remember the dreams that occur later on - closer to when you awake - better.
And anyone who knows me will know what that says about my thoughts.
I don't wanna know.
Originally posted by Oneness
I don't wanna know.
It's nothing bad. I basically just think that astrology is intellectual poison. Dream interpretation might not be QUITE so bad, because there are some common sense aspects of it that are likely true enough. But I think both are wildly detrimental to a realistic view of the world, and both are used primarily to dupe the gullible or uninformed out of their money...at least outside of benign websites and such, which are only misleading, not actively malicious.
Originally posted by Digi
Dream interpretation might not be QUITE so bad, because there are some common sense aspects of it that are likely true enough.
"I fear my children are going to get killed in horrible accidents, all the time. So I dream about that, often."
No brainer.
"I have been going through tons of job interviews, lately. I just had a dream I was in my underwear in front of people."
That one may not seem like a no-brainer until you realize it is just a feeling of being vulnerable in front of people/strangers. Seems people have more "underwear or naked in front of people" dreams hen they are stressing about and going through interviews.
I've got tons like that. Easy stuff to figure out.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I think there are obvious easy-no-brainers like:"I fear my children are going to get killed in horrible accidents, all the time. So I dream about that, often."
No brainer.
"I have been going through tons of job interviews, lately. I just had a dream I was in my underwear in front of people."
That one may not seem like a no-brainer until you realize it is just a feeling of being vulnerable in front of people/strangers. Seems people have more "underwear or naked in front of people" dreams hen they are stressing about and going through interviews.
I've got tons like that. Easy stuff to figure out.
Exactly. Like I said, common sense stuff. You're nervous about interviews, so you're having thought about being nervous in front of people or in interviews. I've had dreams about certain characters after, say, binging on a TV show. My thoughts are so ensconced in the medium already that it bleeds into sleep. Same idea.
It's just trying to take it any further than that...that's the problem. Certainly with, say, contacting the dead, but even less supernatural things like pretending it reveals something buried in your psyche that wasn't already apparent.
Personally, the only thing it says about me is that I'm too warm. I only dream - or rather, only remember my dreams - when I'm too hot in my bed. Remembering my dreams is a physiological byproduct of something very explainable, not a window into anything deeper.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Are you by chance a bed-wetter too? That might explain the sudden warmness.Jus' sayin', bro.
Lol. It usually has to do with my gf. It's like sleeping with a damn space heater under the covers. I've learned to regulate myself relative to the outside temperature when it's just me. But she's a variable I've yet to fully account for.
Originally posted by Lord LucienI actually do believe it logical.
Aliens altering our DNA and constantly affecting our consciousness is a far more appealing thought than magic star drawings.
What if a Type I civilization that can account for 100% of mass {that includes what we believe to be dark matter and energy} from a cosmological constant similar to ours, reconstructed the big bang in a simulation where all operations from the quark up were to scale?
Things go exactly the same, and look, this other planet had the potential for life like us, lets move them from Type 0 to Type I, which is why they might make the stars lined up a certain way and why they might structure a primitive society's experience a certain way relative to the star maps. Astrology. Maybe we're just along for the ride.
Originally posted by Digi
Lol. It usually has to do with my gf. It's like sleeping with a damn space heater under the covers. I've learned to regulate myself relative to the outside temperature when it's just me. But she's a variable I've yet to fully account for.
My girlfriends always had feet of ice, so it was like sleeping next to a cadaver from the knees down. I was the exact opposite.
Originally posted by Oneness
I actually do believe it logical.What if a Type I civilization that can account for 100% of mass {that includes what we believe to be dark matter and energy} from a cosmological constant similar to ours, reconstructed the big bang in a simulation where all operations from the quark up were to scale?
Things go exactly the same, and look, this other planet had the potential for life like us, lets move them from Type 0 to Type I, which is why they might make the stars lined up a certain way and why they might structure a primitive society's experience a certain way relative to the star maps. Astrology. Maybe we're just along for the ride.
LOLWUT.
Originally posted by Stealth MooseWhat do you mean what? You think our cosmos is too complex to be fabricated in cyberspace by a Type I civilization?
LOLWUT.
How anthropocentric.
FYI, it's called the simulation argument. They're formulating an experiment for it, they have this hypothesis that “The most striking feature…is that the angular distribution of the highest energy components would exhibit cubic symmetry in the rest frame of the lattice, deviating signiï¬cantly from isotropy,â€.
Originally posted by Oneness
FYI, it's called the simulation argument. They're formulating an experiment for it, they have this hypothesis that “ The most striking feature … is that the angular distribution of the highest energy components would exhibit cubic symmetry in the rest frame of the lattice, deviating signiï¬cantly from isotropy, â€.
When you cut and pasted this you got some bad characters in your post.
