"My point is that the technology humans have invented is what a Type I Civilization that created the simulation that is our cosmos, would be going for, not us. "
is equal to
"...and unicorns only dance in the spring time."
There is nothing condescending, twerp like or obnoxious about that. They are both fantasy stated as if they were facts.
Sorry that you don't get sarcasm.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
They are both fantasy stated as if they were facts.
Maybe my statement was, maybe it wasn't. We have to wait for three experiments that demonstrate three hypotheses:
a, this is a simulated cosmos
b, the program running the simulation has been altered by an intelligence
c, human history is the product of fact b
Asserting that "the final product would not be us" may not yet be a fact but it is an opinion based on scientifically demonstrated objective facts.
It is factual that humans have reached a point of stagnation, and that there's no reason for economic turmoil in the modern world, except for the system being flawed and untenable.
There shouldn't be a reason for economic turmoil because, as empirically demonstrated in the Global Village Construction Set Experiment (this was a peer reviewed experiment, btw), modern civilization has already gained the sufficient productive resources to fulfill all basic human needs, even accounting for a growing population.......
Yet we've been unable to realize a post-scarcity system due to the supposed "realistic group conflict theory", that was demonstrated in the Robbers Cave Experiment.
So our system cannot move past scarcity because it was created by scarcity, basically.
Merging with technology is the only liberation from that. The hypothetical "creators of the universe" are really just a Type I-III, post-scarcity civilization that have already made the conversion to substrate independence or transhumans or more specifically transextra-terrestrials, AI themselves either operating on a silicon substrate or they are an even more advanced form of life as per the transcnesion hypothesis they have transcended substrates more than once - enough times to create a singularity. That requirement the energy throughput of a star, which a Type II Civilizations does possess.
This idea of "Divine Intervention/Providence" to influence earth evolution suggests a non-anthropocentric incentive for ET ranging from Type I-III in the Kardashev scale that did not exist in their universe. Putting a new intelligence on the map of their simulated universe, so to speak.
Sorry that you don't get sarcasm.
sigh
Just take what I say as fact, I have something called a sixth-sense; empirical insight, in that the information age has provided me enough resources on the subject matters. In short, I know enough about the relationships and variables that are the culprits to human disparity in particular that I'm generally just correct about certain things. It's extreme scientific literacy, like Wally West always reciting information picked up in high school science.
By being skeptics (which is a good thing) and questioning my insights (which is ill-advised), you two derailed the topic by antagonizing a man plagued by OCD. Hope you're happy.
No, I have not read the holographic universe, although I have heard of it and assume it was inspired by the Simulation Argument; the experiment two pages back is attempting to end that argument.
If you don't believe one side of the simulation argument, that does not falsify the hypothesis, only the experiment linked two pages ago can.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Don't dismiss it! Think about it. If we were living in a simulation, there would be unicorns dancing in the spring time.
No condescending, obnoxious, or sarcastic remark can help your case.
I've argued against the notion that my statements were irrational.
Now either argue your case, or concede that my statement was rational, right now.
Another comment that isn't composed of credible supportive statements that attempt to discredit the statements made in this this post without resorting to sarcasm or obnoxious "American-style" behavior will be a concession.
Originally posted by Oneness
No condescending, obnoxious, or sarcastic remark can help your case.
My case? I had a case? What happen to it? Did the unicorns take it?
Originally posted by Oneness
I've argued against the notion that my statements were irrational.
Isn’t that kind of irrational?
Originally posted by Oneness
Now either argue your case, or concede that my statement was rational, right now.
My correctness and your insanity are not mutually exclusive.
Originally posted by Oneness
Another comment that isn't composed of credible supportive statements that attempt to discredit the statements made in this this post without resorting to sarcasm or obnoxious "American-style" behavior will be a concession.
You think I'm insane now?
Because of...what exactly?
Did I claim to have objective knowledge before the fact? No, I claimed objectivity to human stagnation, and implied the possibility of the simulation hypothesis' correctness and a non-anthropocentric incentive for human evolution.
You think I was being illogical, yet all you can rely on to argue that case are your culturally developed obnoxious tendencies.
After this brain injury, it was nearly 3 years ago. I haven't had a dream...kinky or otherwise (nightmares) NO!
My first brain injury....that was 12 years ago, I had dreams. Most of them were kinky sex dreams...seriously.
I sleep well. About 6 hours a night and then a pee, it's usually at 5am and then I pee for a minute ...maybe more! No s**t.
Wilco gets points for being on-topic. Also, I usually have some interesting dreams that I don't want to wake up from (less erotic and more exotic) but then Troll Bladder decides it is time to wake up well before my alarm.
Last night, I was protecting this Swedish girl who had built some kind of modifiable bungalow out in the middle of the woods from her Deliverance inspired neighbors alongside my father.
I had pumpkin pie before bed; clearly this is the culprit. Or, I could take the alternate stance and say this was a divinely inspired message, because when I hear hoof beats I immediately think zebras, not horses.
I can't even describe the dream I had two nights ago.
Like, I remember so little about it at this point and my dreams are usually all over the place. I remembered last nights dream this morning but now it's gone, or I'm having retrieval cue failure.
Two nights ago was a 12 hour night after a 48 hour day. The episodes in my hypnogogic hallucinations were many and a lot of things were happening. In my dreams things aren't the same as they are in every day life. Like the whole environment is altered.