Mayans Question

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Mayans Question

Now before you twats hack away at your keyboards about how I didn't search on google, I did and couldn't find any concise answers.

I was talking to a few people today who were discussing the Mayan civilisation, and I've got some questions.

What happened to the Mayans? I was reading online and they told me that the Mayans disappeared without a trace - another suggestion was that they blended into other cultures.

Were the Mayans a monotheistic nation? I read somewhere online when I searched that said this was true.

Just need someone with a bit of historical knowledge in them to clear this up.

Re: Mayans Question

Originally posted by Liberator
What happened to the Mayans? I was reading online and they told me that the Mayans disappeared without a trace - another suggestion was that they blended into other cultures.

Presumably they either disappeared without a trace or blended into other culture.

Originally posted by Liberator
Were the Mayans a monotheistic nation? I read somewhere online when I searched that said this was true.

They had lots of gods.

Re: Mayans Question

Originally posted by Liberator
What happened to the Mayans? I was reading online and they told me that the Mayans disappeared without a trace - another suggestion was that they blended into other cultures.

technically, it was only the major southern cities that "collapsed" during the 7-9th century. Northern cities remained culturally and politically Mayan, though there was less unity. By the time the Spanish arrived in the following centuries, many of these cities were either their own Empires with Mayan origins, or decentralized Maya "city-states"

as **** like as it might be, nobody here will give you a better run-down of the collapse than:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_collapse

EDIT: twats, ****. Interesting, the singular is censored....

Originally posted by Liberator
Were the Mayans a monotheistic nation? I read somewhere online when I searched that said this was true.

It appears very difficult to tell, because traditional Mayan beliefs have been interpreted through, and modified by, the Roman Catholicism of the Spanish. I could paraphrase, but this paragraph from Wiki seemed most illustrative:

The ancient Maya concept of 'deity', or 'divinity' (k'u in Yucatec, qabuvil in ancient Quiché) is poorly understood, but can by no means be reduced to a mere personification of natural phenomena. The life-cycle of the maize, for instance, lies at the heart of Maya belief, but the role of the Maya maize god transcends the sphere of agriculture to embrace basic aspects of civilized life in general (such as writing). Deities have all sorts of social functions, related to such human activities as agriculture, midwifery, trade, and warfare, and can be the patrons of large kin-based or ethnic segments of society, as shown by the Popol Vuh Triad (including Tohil), and possibly also by the Palenque Triad (G[ods] I, II, and III).

to me, at least, it seems much more like the Gods of East Asia/Korea especially, and the rest of the Wiki on "Mayan religion" seems to talk more extensively about anscestor worship than diety worship

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_religion

best I can come up with

EDIT: actually, maybe it is more like the African Loa.... (I know Loa is the Carribian version, I totally forget what they are called in Africa though)

Re: Mayans Question

Originally posted by Liberator
Now before you twats hack away at your keyboards about how I didn't search on google, I did and couldn't find any concise answers.

I was talking to a few people today who were discussing the Mayan civilisation, and I've got some questions.

What happened to the Mayans? I was reading online and they told me that the Mayans disappeared without a trace - another suggestion was that they blended into other cultures.

Were the Mayans a monotheistic nation? I read somewhere online when I searched that said this was true.

Just need someone with a bit of historical knowledge in them to clear this up.

Mayans and other cultures in the area have been reliant on access to fresh water via sink holes...Likely that during periods of drought when the water level in these sinkholes dropped that they simply couldn't access it.

Probably didn't help that they used these same sinkholes to give sacrifices to the Gods...I wouldn't want to drink water with dead bodies festering in it.

Makes sense to me; most of what they told me was just some conspiracy stuff about aliens yadayadayada.

conspiracy forum

I'm not sure about the specifics but South Americans also had alot of contact with West Africans I think specifically the Mandingo and that was before the Spanish arrived.

Originally posted by Deadline
I'm not sure about the specifics but South Americans also had alot of contact with West Africans I think specifically the Mandingo and that was before the Spanish arrived.

Define "alot of contact" for me.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Define "alot of contact" for me.

I think they interacted with them for several centuries.

Originally posted by Deadline
I'm not sure about the specifics but South Americans also had alot of contact with West Africans I think specifically the Mandingo and that was before the Spanish arrived.

Is there any hard evidence of this?

The only pre-Columbian contact theory with actual evidence that I can recall is the Norse settlements in Newfoundland.

Originally posted by Deadline
I think they interacted with them for several centuries.
like interbreeding?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Is there any hard evidence of this?

The only pre-Columbian contact theory with actual evidence that I can recall is the Norse settlements in Newfoundland.

Ok off the top of my head. Europeans travellers were told that black people had been there before them. There are statues of african people and pictures. Some natives took some african words and they also had took at least one god from the mandingo which was a wolf god. I might not be exactly right about the specifics but its in this book.

http://www.amazon.com/They-Came-Before-Columbus-Presence/dp/0394402456

They were also in North America as well. I think Columbus or at least his son saw black people there.

This maybe more useful

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/010.html

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
like interbreeding?

Trade as well.

Originally posted by inimalist
conspiracy forum

Looks like one of the twats got through 💃

Maya history isn´t conspiracy, they existed and just because someone asks about them it doesn´t mean it refers to the 2012 calendar thing.

Chritians probably wiped most of them out, they were good at that style of conversion, convert or die. Reminds me of the necromongers (Riddick)
.

Taken from a site I googled and found in a matter of seconds (what a **** I am🙂

Many of the Yucatan Mayans whose ancestors were hunters, chicle farmers and fisherman now work in hotels and other tourist related businesses. More than 350,000 Mayans living in the Yucatan speak Yukatek

LINK

Originally posted by Deadline
Ok off the top of my head. Europeans travellers were told that black people had been there before them. There are statues of african people and pictures. Some natives took some african words and they also had took at least one god from the mandingo which was a wolf god. I might not be exactly right about the specifics but its in this book.

http://www.amazon.com/They-Came-Before-Columbus-Presence/dp/0394402456

They were also in North America as well. I think Columbus or at least his son saw black people there.

This maybe more useful

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/010.html

Trade as well.


Ivan Van Sertima's theories have been more or less discredited by most mainstream academics as mostly baseless.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Looks like one of the twats got through 💃

Maya history isn´t conspiracy, they existed and just because someone asks about them it doesn´t mean it refers to the 2012 calendar thing.

Chritians probably wiped most of them out, they were good at that style of conversion, convert or die. Reminds me of the necromongers (Riddick)
.

Taken from a site I googled and found in a matter of seconds (what a **** I am🙂

Many of the Yucatan Mayans whose ancestors were hunters, chicle farmers and fisherman now work in hotels and other tourist related businesses. More than 350,000 Mayans living in the Yucatan speak Yukatek

LINK

it was a joke

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Ivan Van Sertima's theories have been more or less discredited by most mainstream academics as mostly baseless.

By who? Its not actually far fetched at all. The Vikings 'discovered' Americe and as far as I can remember even the Romans and possibly Greeks have. I'm pretty sure hes not the only historian who has this opinion I think Basil Davidson does as well.

Originally posted by Deadline
I'm not sure about the specifics but South Americans also had alot of contact with West Africans I think specifically the Mandingo and that was before the Spanish arrived.

Militant Afro-centrists claim that the Olmecs and Mayans were visited and influenced by ancient Black people.

But that view is rejected by mainstream anthropologists.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Militant Afro-centrists claim that the Olmecs and Mayans were visited and influenced by ancient Black people.

But that view is rejected by mainstream anthropologists.

Ok but i'm not sure if its rejected that black people went to America before Columbus.

no, it is generally not thought that Africans were the first to visit the Americas

Originally posted by inimalist
no, it is generally not thought that Africans were the first to visit the Americas

If they travelled there before Columbus they weren't there first but I see what you mean. Why is that?