Very...VERY...bad...matchups...

Supes should be able to win pretty easily via cold breath... but people are really overstating the relevance of the whole k-nite from other universes thing. If Nimrod can scan people to discover frequencies of energy characters are vulnerable to and reconfigure himself to create produce those frequencies I see no reason why he wouldn't be able to create k-nite that would work on Supes. He wouldn't be creating k-nite from DC's Earth(insert random number) or from Marvel 616, he'd be creating whatever frequency of K-nite that Supes is vulnerable to.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
In this thread we will explore fights where a character can consistently beat another character that is [b]atleast 2 tiers higher than he/she/it is (CIS/PIS are off btw)...

Two examples come to mind:

1) Superman (High Herald) vs Nimrod (Low Herald); Between Nimrods ability to reconstruct itself from near total destruction, its rapid ability to adapt to and negate enemy strengths, and its ability to scan a foe and come up with a weapon that can kill its target, I am thinking that this is a very, VERY, bad matchup for Supes...

I honestly cant see Supes beating Nimrod at all save perhaps via BFR, for after Nimrod scans his weaknesses, it just becomes a bladed kryptonite weapon or kryptonite-based disintegrator beam waiting to happen...

And combined with being almost totally indestructable...I believe Supes goes down to this thing for a large majority (bare minimum) every single time...hell, unless Supes can get some wins via BFR, I truly believe he inevitably loses to Nimrod 10/10.

2) Ultron (Low Herald) vs Adam Warlock (High Herald); Warlocks Soul Gem would be completely useless in this matchup and there is absolutely nothing Adam could do to harm Ultron physically...nor can I see Warlock beating him via BFR...

So its inevitable in my minds eye...Ultron beats Adam Warlock every single time and there isnt a dam thing Warlock can do to prevent it.

Now that you see where I am heading with this, think up some matchups that fall in line with the two above examples...

I think it'll make for some great brain storming and debate! 🙂 [/B]

Unless the fight starts with nimrods having general knowledge of red sunlight as a weakness And he starts off emitting it... Supermans combat speed and strength can disable nimrod... If nimrod can be overloaded by one lower xmeb with electricity supermans heat vision is going to own...

An how quick do u think nimrod will be able to scan superman considering his travel speed...

Originally posted by carver9
I see no reason why nimrod can't beat supes for the majority... especially with all that versatility it has.

That's because you think Superman is nothing more than a flying Colossus.

Originally posted by rotiart
Unless the fight starts with nimrods having general knowledge of red sunlight as a weakness And he starts off emitting it... Supermans combat speed and strength can disable nimrod... If nimrod can be overloaded by one lower xmeb with electricity supermans heat vision is going to own...

An how quick do u think nimrod will be able to scan superman considering his travel speed...

Originally posted by batdude123
That's because you think Superman is nothing more than a flying Colossus.

Originally posted by batdude123
That's because you think Superman is nothing more than a flying Colossus.

Oh... I didn't know that. I guess that's why I tend to give supes the nod over black adam, wonder woman, martian manhunter, current thor, terrax, apocalypse, first appearanc sentry, hulk (not wwh)... juggernaut via bfring, can pull some wins against surfer, a majority against orion, firelord, super skrull, and the list goes on.

So with this said, since I think colossus and supes are equal, he should be able to do the same thing.

Originally posted by carver9
Oh... I didn't know that. I guess that's why I tend to give supes the nod over black adam, wonder woman, martian manhunter, current thor, terrax, apocalypse, first appearanc sentry, hulk (not wwh)... juggernaut via bfring, can pull some wins against surfer, a majority against orion, firelord, super skrull, and the list goes on.

So with this said, since I think colossus and supes are equal, he should be able to do the same thing.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
facepalm

Nut... I was being sarcastic. I never said that rhino or colossus=supes.

Originally posted by carver9
Nut... I was being sarcastic. I never said that rhino or colossus=supes.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Sarcasm does not work with text! 😠

Lol

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Three things

1: Superman would beat nimrod and easily

2: Yes technically adam shouldn't be able to do anything to ultron although I don't know how hes low herald

3: Exactly how is adam high herald?

Just going by the tierings here at KMC; I dont agree with Warlock being High Herald either, but thats what the consensus was here at some point in time...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Just going by the tierings here at KMC; I dont agree with Warlock being High Herald either, but thats what the consensus was here at some point in time...

Cloak vs. most one dimensional bricks above him is a classic case of a bad match-up IMO.

As for Supes beating Nimrod, I just see Nimrod winning inevitably...

Yeah, he can stop him temporarily with the cold breath, but Nimrod will adapt and that wont work anymore after that; Supes can beat him into powder, but Nimrod with reconstruct itself and come back after him undoubtably with force fields or intagibility tactics to prevent that from happening anymore; Supes can blast away at Nimrod with heat vision, but he will reconstruct and adapt...

Eventually Nimrod will scan him...and will come up with a lethal solution against Supes...and its lights out after that.

Nimrod eventually wins...

And yes, I clearly see that some here wont agree with the above no matter what...so how about we stop talking about Nimrod as thats getting nowhere...and get on to other matchup's?

I think Flash vs Black Cat is a good one...

Originally posted by illadelph12
Cloak vs. most one dimensional bricks above him is a classic case of a bad match-up IMO.

Definitely agree...

I think Rogue defeats a fair number of opponents 2 or more tiers higher than herself via her touch as well; I could see Absorbing Man (for example) falling to Rogue very rapidly...

Originally posted by carver9
Oh... I didn't know that. I guess that's why I tend to give supes the nod over black adam, wonder woman, martian manhunter, current thor, terrax, apocalypse, first appearanc sentry, hulk (not wwh)... juggernaut via bfring, can pull some wins against surfer, a majority against orion, firelord, super skrull, and the list goes on.

So with this said, since I think colossus and supes are equal, he should be able to do the same thing.

Pretty hilarious post considering you take a shit on Superman in damn-near every thread I see you post in.

Originally posted by carver9
Oh... I didn't know that. I guess that's why I tend to give supes the nod over black adam, wonder woman, martian manhunter, current thor, terrax, apocalypse, first appearanc sentry, hulk (not wwh)... juggernaut via bfring, can pull some wins against surfer, a majority against orion, firelord, super skrull, and the list goes on.

So with this said, since I think colossus and supes are equal, he should be able to do the same thing.

Anyone below Gladiator vs Juggernaut (Fully powered) is IMO a very bad match up.

Originally posted by rotiart
Unless the fight starts with nimrods having general knowledge of red sunlight as a weakness And he starts off emitting it... Supermans combat speed and strength can disable nimrod... If nimrod can be overloaded by one lower xmeb with electricity supermans heat vision is going to own...

An how quick do u think nimrod will be able to scan superman considering his travel speed...