Opinion - TFU II Galen Marek is not a Clone

Just finished playing TFU II and throughout the game, Galen believes he is a clone. However, in my personal opinion he is not. Why? For a few reasons:

Reason 1: It seems to me he is suffering from a type of Jason Bourne affect. A traumatic event happened and Galen lost his memory. That event was when he opened himself to the Force when he 'sacrificed' himself for the Rebellion. Vader took the 'corpse' and sent it to Kamino to manipulate Galen into believing he [Galen] was a clone.

Reason 2: Galen began to slowly regain his memories. If he was a clone, then he would not have any memory of his past life. And, the 'clones' that Vader made were failures. This was a decade after the Clone Wars and cloning technology was not a perfect science. Examples are Luuke Skywalker and Joruus C'boath.

Reason 3: Galen was just simply too powerful to throw away. Why waste over 15+ years of formal training?

Reason 4: He let Vader live. He had the chance twice to kill Vader - once in TFU I and in TFU II. It doesn't add up.

So, that's my humblle opinion. What are yours?

No he is a clone. You see the originals dead body in one of the secret cutscenes. What is intresting is he is not wearing the Jedi Adventure Robe, but is wearing what he wore when Vader stabbed him and threw him into outer space. Which more or less confirms the theory that you play as Starkiller's clone in the second half of the first game.

Also not all of the clone were failures check the dark side ending.

Dark Side ending is probably non-canon.

And yay on my theory! 😂

Sure. But those secret cutscenes are about the perfected clone that makes his apperance in the Dark Side ending, so the character is canon.

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Reason 1: It seems to me he is suffering from a type of Jason Bourne affect. A traumatic event happened and Galen lost his memory. That event was when he opened himself to the Force when he 'sacrificed' himself for the Rebellion. Vader took the 'corpse' and sent it to Kamino to manipulate Galen into believing he [Galen] was a clone.

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Reason 2: Galen began to slowly regain his memories. If he was a clone, then he would not have any memory of his past life. And, the 'clones' that Vader made were failures. This was a decade after the Clone Wars and cloning technology was not a perfect science. Examples are Luuke Skywalker and Joruus C'boath.

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Reason 3: Galen was just simply too powerful to throw away. Why waste over 15+ years of formal training?

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Reason 4: He let Vader live. He had the chance twice to kill Vader - once in TFU I and in TFU II. It doesn't add up.

P.S. TFU II f*cking sucked.

How bad was TFU II Lucien? Almost 1k'd Fable 3 so tempted to trade it in for TFU 2.

Originally posted by mattatom
How bad was TFU II Lucien? Almost 1k'd Fable 3 so tempted to trade it in for TFU 2.

As a Star Wars fan, it was a f*cking abomination. The premise of the story was shoddy and hackneyed, the characters transparent and boring, the "cameos" of Boba Fett an Yoda utterly useless, and the canonical ending completely ridiculous on every level. As a Star Wars story, it blowed.

And from what I've seen/been described to, Fable 3 shaped up to be a bigger disappointment than Fable 2. No appearance modification, stupid leveling system, easy gold, pointless class-customization, half a game map that isn't filled in (Fallout: New Vegas-style right there), pointless and irksome pause menu, and that f*cking dog.

But I still wouldn't suggest trading it in for TFU II. I can't stress enough how short and worthless that game is. Wait a year and Walmart will have it for $10 in the bargain bin and Fable 3 will still be $39.99 behind the glass case.

Personally i preferred Fable 3 to Fable 2. The dog was stil there. That pissed me off. The appearence mods didn't bother me. I preferred the levelling system in 3 to 1 and 2. Purely because it's easier. Gold is easy if you buy properties early which I didn't as a result I had to scrape every cent to have the pure good ending, that was a challenge. The weapon challenges were a neat idea I thought (Unmissed achievement for like fully upgrading so many weapons(or atleast one range and one melee)). Cut them a break on the game map, they've said in the past they specifically don't want a completely free roam game, takes out the feel of the Fable feel, (Oblivion-esque else). Pause menu I liked, allowed more freedom and could compare and contrast outfits.

I may just buy TFU then. Or trade in Fable 3 for New Vegas, Brotherhood, or the F1 Game.

Originally posted by mattatom
Personally i preferred Fable 3 to Fable 2. The dog was stil there. That pissed me off. The appearence mods didn't bother me. I preferred the levelling system in 3 to 1 and 2. Purely because it's easier. Gold is easy if you buy properties early which I didn't as a result I had to scrape every cent to have the pure good ending, that was a challenge. The weapon challenges were a neat idea I thought (Unmissed achievement for like fully upgrading so many weapons(or atleast one range and one melee)). Cut them a break on the game map, they've said in the past they specifically don't want a completely free roam game, takes out the feel of the Fable feel, (Oblivion-esque else). Pause menu I liked, allowed more freedom and could compare and contrast outfits.

Originally posted by mattatom
I may just buy TFU then. Or trade in Fable 3 for New Vegas, Brotherhood, or the F1 Game.

The depressing thing is I can't remember where they wrote it but they have already confirmed Fable IV and since the games are getting progressively worse and more into the future whats next modern day fable which plays like the first Quake?

Tempting, I enjoyed Fallout 3 afterall. Though i do still need to go back to it -.-.

Great thing is, you don't need to play 3 to get through New Vegas. They're quite unrelated. NV's got a less... apocalypse-based story though.

Sorry guys if I seem to ramble on right now cause I'm badly hungover. Drank too many depth charges and shots of Black Bush Irish Whiskey last night to write coherently.

Galen would have to be in the animus to remember his past life - his blood memories like in Assassins Creed. When I go to MMA fights and sometimes the fighters get knocked out, they don't remember a thing. In psychology, I can't remember the term for it, but the brain does block traumatic events in order to protect itself from harm. I'm not a shrink, but I do believe was not a clone. Vader just manipulated him into believing he was a clone.

When Palpatine was a 'clone' he simply transfered his essence into another body - kinda like Exar Kun's spirit when he took over Kyp. But no about Starkiller. There is something known as selective behavior modification and that's what I think Vader attempted.

Originally posted by
mattatom: 5.5
Personally i preferred Fable 3 to Fable 2. The dog was stil there. That pissed me off. The appearence mods didn't bother me. I preferred the levelling system in 3 to 1 and 2. Purely because it's easier. Gold is easy if you buy properties early which I didn't as a result I had to scrape every cent to have the pure good ending, that was a challenge. The weapon challenges were a neat idea I thought (Unmissed achievement for like fully upgrading so many weapons(or atleast one range and one melee)). Cut them a break on the game map, they've said in the past they specifically don't want a completely free roam game, takes out the feel of the Fable feel, (Oblivion-esque else). Pause menu I liked, allowed more freedom and could compare and contrast outfits.

I may just buy TFU then. Or trade in Fable 3 for New Vegas, Brotherhood, or the F1 Game.

Or play games that are actually good.

Originally posted by NCRotCA
Or play games that are actually good.

Nope! Not about games!

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nope! Not about games!

Spoiler:
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Yes please.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes please.

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Sorry guys if I seem to ramble on right now cause I'm badly hungover. Drank too many depth charges and shots of Black Bush Irish Whiskey last night to write coherently.

Galen would have to be in the animus to remember his past life - his blood memories like in Assassins Creed. When I go to MMA fights and sometimes the fighters get knocked out, they don't remember a thing. In psychology, I can't remember the term for it, but the brain does block traumatic events in order to protect itself from harm. I'm not a shrink, but I do believe was not a clone. Vader just manipulated him into believing he was a clone.

When Palpatine was a 'clone' he simply transfered his essence into another body - kinda like Exar Kun's spirit when he took over Kyp. But no about Starkiller. There is something known as selective behavior modification and that's what I think Vader attempted.

Fable 3 is infinitely better than TFU 2.