Marijuana

Started by Daemon Seed19 pages
Originally posted by King Kandy
lol actually it's the complete opposite. stats tell a much more accurate story than some guy's opinion does.

You've heard the phrase lies damn lies and statistics right. Anyone can skew a study.

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
You've heard the phrase lies damn lies and statistics right. Anyone can skew a study.

As opposed to someone's opinion, which they can't skew?

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
You've heard the phrase lies damn lies and statistics right. Anyone can skew a study.

wait, let me just get this clear

you are saying those stats aren't accurate? based on what?

Originally posted by King Kandy
As opposed to someone's opinion, which they can't skew?

Of course that can be skewed; however, in any study you have to ask who's making it, why, what are the goals etc.

Have you ever seen someone white out from pot?

what is "white out"?

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Of course that can be skewed; however, in any study you have to ask who's making it, why, what are the goals etc.

And you don't have to ask that about someone's opinion?

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Have you ever seen someone white out from pot?

How many people white out in amsterdam every year?

Originally posted by King Kandy
How many people white out in amsterdam every year?

do you want a stat or an opinion on that?

I'm about to go to holland and speak to people, in the mean time im about to go home and get high

Originally posted by inimalist
do you want a stat or an opinion on that?

He's saying I should ask someone's opinion on how many people white out. I'm more interested in the statistic.

Originally posted by King Kandy
And you don't have to ask that about someone's opinion?

How many people white out in amsterdam every year?

Of course you do?

Who knows?

But legalising is foolish, to be honest. I wouldn't mind drugs if they just affected the people taking them. It's the affects on those around them which I have issues with. Personal issues so my opinion is strongly skewed as is yours if you're honest.

Originally posted by inimalist
do you want a stat or an opinion on that?

In my opinion it's at least a million hmm

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Of course you do?

Who knows?

But legalising is foolish, to be honest. I wouldn't mind drugs if they just affected the people taking them. It's the affects on those around them which I have issues with. Personal issues so my opinion is strongly skewed as is yours if you're honest.


That's why i'm looking for statistics; because right now we have introduced those while you have continued to go based on nothing but your own opinions.

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
It's the affects on those around them which I have issues with.

such as?

[not to mention, the moving goal-post]

Originally posted by King Kandy
That's why i'm looking for statistics; because right now we have introduced those while you have continued to go based on nothing but your own opinions.

Could you give me how those stats were collected, what the source for them was, who performed the study, who paid for it. Where the original figures came from if governments etc. Then we'd be talking. Because, if you give % including the U.K. I know I wasn't asked and noone I know was, i work with people in a disadvantaged area and I know they weren't asked... So. Where's the U.K. figure come from?

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Could you give me how those stats were collected, what the source for them was, who performed the study, who paid for it. Where the original figures came from if governments etc. Then we'd be talking. Because, if you give % including the U.K. I know I wasn't asked and noone I know was, i work with people in a disadvantaged area and I know they weren't asked... So. Where's the U.K. figure come from?

Before I talk to you any more, I want you to tell me exactly what information we need to provide for you to admit marijuana should be legalized.

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Could you give me how those stats were collected, what the source for them was, who performed the study, who paid for it. Where the original figures came from if governments etc. Then we'd be talking. Because, if you give % including the U.K. I know I wasn't asked and noone I know was, i work with people in a disadvantaged area and I know they weren't asked... So. Where's the U.K. figure come from?

the UN

I provided the ****ing link when I posted the stats, the PDFs have all this information for each chart they provide, and largely it comes from national databases

this is entirely non-profit essentially demographic data

/ffs

Originally posted by King Kandy
Before I talk to you any more, I want you to tell me exactly what information we need to provide for you to admit marijuana should be legalized.

1) that it does not cause or increase mental health problems.
2) That it is not a gateway drug.
3) That it does not affect the loved ones around those taking it, psychologically, emotionally and financially ever.

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
1) that it does not cause or increase mental health problems.
2) That it is not a gateway drug.
3) That it does not affect the loved ones around those taking it, psychologically, emotionally and financially ever.

Well you are basically asking it to prove a negative on all of these. You need to show these things DO occur.

Also, you are saying in #3 that it has to never influence anyone negatively in any way? By that logic anything from beer to fast food to voting should be banned.

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
1) that it does not cause or increase mental health problems.
2) That it is not a gateway drug.
3) That it does not affect the loved ones around those taking it, psychologically, emotionally and financially ever.

would you say anything that does meet one of these conditions should be made illegal?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well you are basically asking it to prove a negative on all of these. You need to show these things DO occur.

Also, you are saying in #3 that it has to never influence anyone negatively in any way? By that logic anything from beer to fast food to voting should be banned.

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