Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I thought Canadians had that coalition thing.
I wasn't speaking so literally. ya, lesser of 4 to 5 evils. it's more I just don't believe in the party establishment system, even though some parties might have some policies i would agree with more than others. pot legalization would be something that affects me fairly directly, so idk.
Originally posted by inimalistThanks bro. I got baked off my ass and listened to this song. While listening to it, I felt like Bugs Bunny with the fruit hat. So yeah, thanks bro.
YouTube videoyou are welcome
/facepalm...
wtf? ddm, what is going on?
Originally posted by Grate the Vraya
Thanks bro. I got baked off my ass and listened to this song. While listening to it, I felt like Bugs Bunny with the fruit hat. So yeah, thanks bro.
no worries, gotta love that funk!
Originally posted by inimalisti knew it was funk but when i listened to it high it sounded tropical...
YouTube video/facepalm...
wtf? ddm, what is going on?
no worries, gotta love that funk!
Originally posted by inimalist
what didn't work?EDIT: its also not legal in Holland
It is pretty much allowed in Coffee shops etc. How hasn't it worked? It's led to other drug use becoming increased and most people in Holland will tell you it has negatively affected the young, particularly in terms of moving on in there lives and having ambition. I visit Holland regularly and know many dutch beople aged 14 to 60+.
Originally posted by Daemon Seed
It is pretty much allowed in Coffee shops etc
yes, the police will not enforce it in the shops, it is still illegal to possess.
Originally posted by Daemon Seed
How hasn't it worked? It's led to other drug use becoming increased
stats?
Originally posted by Daemon Seed
and most people in Holland will tell you it has negatively affected the young, particularly in terms of moving on in there lives and having ambition.
... unless you can back this up with something, this sounds like a mixture of "kids these days" and the same lethargic youth culture seen all over the world
Originally posted by inimalist
yes, the police will not enforce it in the shops, it is still illegal to possess.stats?
... unless you can back this up with something, this sounds like a mixture of "kids these days" and the same lethargic youth culture seen all over the world
The Police will enforce in shops under condition.
Marijuana today is 2 - 3times as strong as it was.
It's not kids these days, ask anyone in Holland.
From the 2007 UN World Drug Report:
http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/WDR-2007.html
All numbers of drug use represent % of population 16-64 year olds that use, ranked highest to lowest (So, if Holland is 10th, that means only 9 nations have a higher use).
Use of Opiates:
Out of 39 European nations [all ranks are only among European nations], Holland is in a 5 way tie for 21st, at 0.3% use. Use in America is 0.6%
Use of Cocaine:
Holland is in a 5 way tie for 5th, at 1.1% use. America is at 2.8%.
Use of Cannabis
Holland is in 17th, with a use rate of 6.1. America is at 12.6. Canada is at 16.8, 5th in the world (behind Micronesia, Papua New Guinea, Zambia and Ghana).
Use of Amphetamines:
3 way tie for 16th at 0.6%. The US is at 1.8.
lol, go through the report yourself, it is more than a little informative. In all cases, use rates in the UK and US are much higher... so ya, total failure that is the Dutch drug policy... /sigh
Originally posted by Daemon Seed
The Police will enforce in shops under condition.
yes, exactly, hence, it isn't legal
Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Marijuana today is 2 - 3times as strong as it was.
so?
Originally posted by Daemon Seed
It's not kids these days, ask anyone in Holland.
/facepalm
Originally posted by inimalist
From the 2007 UN World Drug Report:http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/WDR-2007.html
All numbers of drug use represent % of population 16-64 year olds that use, ranked highest to lowest (So, if Holland is 10th, that means only 9 nations have a higher use).
[b]Use of Opiates:
Out of 39 European nations [all ranks are only among European nations], Holland is in a 5 way tie for 21st, at 0.3% use. Use in America is 0.6%
Use of Cocaine:
Holland is in a 5 way tie for 5th, at 1.1% use. America is at 2.8%.
Use of Cannabis
Holland is in 17th, with a use rate of 6.1. America is at 12.6. Canada is at 16.8, 5th in the world (behind Micronesia, Papua New Guinea, Zambia and Ghana).
Use of Amphetamines:
3 way tie for 16th at 0.6%. The US is at 1.8.
lol, go through the report yourself, it is more than a little informative. In all cases, use rates in the UK and US are much higher... so ya, total failure that is the Dutch drug policy... /sigh
yes, exactly, hence, it isn't legal
so?
/facepalm [/B]
Seriously go to Holland and speak to people. Those stats do not tell the whole story.
Originally posted by inimalist
...that is some of the best hand waving I've seen to date
It's not hand waving it's based on observation and visiting the country.
If you want to see it as hand waving that's fine people like Collins see it differently. If you've ever seen anyone white out, you know what pot can do. You say you do Neuro science, you must be aware of what hydroponically grown pot can do.
Originally posted by Daemon Seed
Seriously go to Holland and speak to people. Those stats do not tell the whole story.
For that matter, I have been to amsterdam and i have heard mostly good things about the system...
Originally posted by Daemon Seed
It's not hand waving it's based on observation and visiting the country.
If you want to see it as hand waving that's fine people like Collins see it differently. If you've ever seen anyone white out, you know what pot can do. You say you do Neuro science, you must be aware of what hydroponically grown pot can do.
I smoke pot daily