Marijuana

Originally posted by inimalist
Psylocybin itself, like pure mdma, lsd or thc, is so benign that you would have to specifically set out to OD on it in order for it to harm you seriously.

Eating it as mushrooms, you are going to be sooooooo high that you are incapable of injesting fatal amounts. I'm not sure about other chemicals in some mushrooms, and I am not saying in any way that taking irresponsibly large doses of hallucinogens is healthy (especially in terms of mental health).

Pot, on the other hand, does actually have some fairly serious physiological effects. Inhaling smoke is never good, it has a very high tar content, and is much more likely to be abused than are traditional psychadellics (you build up a tollorance to shrooms/lsd so fast it would be difficult to have a habit of it longer than a month or two, not considering the stress that would put on your psyche)

With pot, moderation is the key. However, not all mushrooms are safe, and there is always a risk of parasites.

Well I am about to willingly put myself in the line of fire and act as a test subject. Well, here I go..... 😉

Originally posted by inimalist
Psylocybin itself, like pure mdma, lsd or thc, is so benign that you would have to specifically set out to OD on it in order for it to harm you seriously.

Eating it as mushrooms, you are going to be sooooooo high that you are incapable of injesting fatal amounts. I'm not sure about other chemicals in some mushrooms, and I am not saying in any way that taking irresponsibly large doses of hallucinogens is healthy (especially in terms of mental health).

Pot, on the other hand, does actually have some fairly serious physiological effects. Inhaling smoke is never good, it has a very high tar content, and is much more likely to be abused than are traditional psychadellics (you build up a tollorance to shrooms/lsd so fast it would be difficult to have a habit of it longer than a month or two, not considering the stress that would put on your psyche)

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is true, but unless you grow it yourself, you don't always know what you are getting. To be honest, if it was all legalized, we would all be safer.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Source on that last bit? Leary, Kesey, many of the countercultural figures from that period, used it for years almost religiously and were still going strong.

does "drug culture" count as a reference? personal experience?

I don't have a study I can point to, not too much research is aimed at "how to get high most effectively", however, the tolorance build up is among some of the reasons that psychadellics are considered to have almost no addictive potential.

actually...

Levinthal C. (2005) Drugs, Behavior, and Modern Society (4th Ed). Pearson Education, Inc.

pg. 143

Will LSD Produce a Dependence?

... LSD and other hallucinogens cause the body to build up a tolorance to their effects faster than any other drug category. As a result, one cannot remain on an LSD-induced high day after day, for an extended period of time.

One of the few text books I didn't sell

We need to keep marijuana illegal because it's a sin.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
We need to keep marijuana illegal because it's a sin.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That reminds me, a good friend of mine (he's a friend of mine on Facebook, Bards, so I can point you to him, if you'd like) tried weed for his first time in Holland (western portion of the Netherlands). They gave him like a "book" of sorts at his hotel and he tried white widow as his very first weed.

He said it made him so high that he was hallucinating and was scared shitless. He thought he OD'd or something.

The way he told the story was hilarious and I laughed at him. Weed newbz: getting their first high and a shitload of white widow. 😆

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
this post is a sin 😄

😆

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
We need to keep marijuana illegal because it's a sin.

😱 It sucks to be a Christian. 😛

Someone must have been smokin something writing that book of Revelations though.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Someone must have been smokin something writing that book of Revelations though.

More like eating mushrooms. 😉

Originally posted by Slay
White widow isn't that hardcore. It's considered the Marlboro of weed around here. Furthermore, weed very rarely gets you high, I know white widow doesn't. It definitely doesn't make you hallucinate, never happened to me or anyone I've ever smoked with. Also, names for weed like white widow, K2 or California Wondertree are a farce.

Originally posted by inimalist
does "drug culture" count as a reference? personal experience?

I don't have a study I can point to, not too much research is aimed at "how to get high most effectively", however, the tolorance build up is among some of the reasons that psychadellics are considered to have almost no addictive potential.

actually...

Levinthal C. (2005) Drugs, Behavior, and Modern Society (4th Ed). Pearson Education, Inc.

pg. 143

One of the few text books I didn't sell

Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't know what you're saying. You don't need to hallucinate to be "high", i've never heard the word used that way by smokers in my life. That would be "tripping". All weed differs by location but the white widow in amsterdam was found to have ~19% THC which is exceptionally high.

Edit: My usage of the word high wasn't off as dadudemon said something about his friend getting 'so high'. Weed very rarely gets you high, it gets you stoned, which are in fact two completely different experiences. The only weed I've ever had that got me high was some Purple Haze I got in Amsterdam.

Originally posted by Slay
Weed doesn't make you hallucinate period. You're right, my usage of the word high was a bit off there, but for the record most types of weed don't get you high, hasj (hach?) does. I happen to be from Holland and get most of my weed from the ''coffee-shops'', and never have I hallucinated from weed and neither has any of my friends. What still stands is that names like White Widow basically have no meaning. You've got types of weed like haze, which are the stronger types of weed etc. But really, around here at least, one shop's White Widow is another shops K2.

Edit: My usage of the word high wasn't off as dadudemon said something about his friend getting 'so high'. Weed very rarely gets you high, it gets you stoned, which are in fact two completely different experiences. The only weed I've ever had that got me high was some Purple Haze I got in Amsterdam.

I never have heard of anyone to hallucinate from marijuana, so I agree with you there. I don't know how that one even came up.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I never have heard of anyone to hallucinate from marijuana, so I agree with you there. I don't know how that one even came up.

it certainly can have that effect, but it is not common, and may be related to its ability to agitate latent psychological conditions, like psychoses, schitzophrenia and numerous anxiety/depressive disorders. Pot is technically classified as a hallucinogen at times because of some of the systems if affects, but I would agree it is different from what are traditionally considered psychadellics.

that, and drugs affect people in very different ways, from a subjective sense. LSD, psilopsybin, and other seretonin resembling hallucinogens have never given me vivid visual hallucinations, in fact, only experience a K-hole ever gave me specific hallucinations.

Originally posted by King Kandy

I never have heard of anyone to hallucinate from marijuana, so I agree with you there. I don't know how that one even came up.

That's why a lot of people smoke hash before they go out around here, to get in the mood.

Originally posted by inimalist
that, and drugs affect people in very different ways, from a subjective sense.

Marijuana usually a as a pipe or cigarette smoking. It also blunts, which are cigars that were emptied of tobacco and refilled with a mixture of marijuana and tobacco smoking are in. Marijuana most commonly used illegal drug in the U.S. The dry parts of the plant Cannabis sativa is made of hemp.

Originally posted by Slay
So it might very well be that pot does make certain people hallucinate, though I've never heard anyone say pot made them hallucinate.

In simplistic terms, the difference between hallucination on pot and hallucination on, say, LSD, is that, with pot it's as if mental imagery is being projected onto the screen of sensory awareness, whereas with LSD it's as if dream imagery is being projected.

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